The Navys Needs this time around

[JTP]

I just got finished looking at the newest issue of "Wings of Gold" (ANA). There is a section that shows what squadrons the lastest guys graduating were assigned. Heres how they fared..........

66-Helos
73-Fixed Wings (16 Fighters)
*11 of 16 who were assigned fighter squardrons were LTJG's and one was a LCDR.

Wow....I wish you could get a guaranteed fixed wing pilot slot!

I know the #'s will be different each month, but that is where the NEEDS stand now.



YEAH COME ON!!

 

[Palmer]

Will someone please tell me what the relevance of 11 of the 16 fighter pilots being LTJG's and LCDR is?

LTJG = Lieutenant Junior Grade?
LCDR = Lieutenant Commander (something)?

Is it relevant because those who are LTJG or LCDR stand a better chance of being issued fighters? If so, how does one become LTJG or LCDR.

Thanks

-Palmer

 

[ghost_ttu]

Palmer, go look at the ranks of the Navy, you probably need to get familiar with them reguardless. Basically Ensign is a newly commissioned officer, LTJG, LT, LCDR, are the ranks leading up to LCDR. To obtain the rank it is on merit and time. So what they are saying is that 11 of the guys have made it to LTJG rank, and one of the guys was a LCDR. I would bet that the LCDR either was another type of officer and then moved to an SNA slot, or was already a pilot of another aircraft platform and was somehow able to go back to select jets.

I'm completely guessing on the LCDR thing, anyone with "real" knowledge want to put their guess into the possibilities of that happening?

 

[RC]

That sounds about right to me. I was kinda thrown off when I seen the LCDR also. Im guessing probably the bulk of the guys graduating from flight school are probably LTJG's?

 

[ghost_ttu]

That is what I hear, since LTJG is at the two year mark, I think you would have to be very lucky to go to the RAG as an Ensign. Meaning you went through quickly, not that you did something to get passed up for LTJG, cause most officers tell me that the first two are just time honored.

 

[Shepherd]

Could possibly be a Flight Doc earning his/her wings.

A posteriori

 

[JTP]

In the newest issue of WINGS OF GOLD (Summer 2002) it list the officers who have recently earned their wings and what squadrons they were assigned to. This is how it fared, and these are THE NEEDS OF THE NAVY as of now.

Drum roll please....

NUGGETS: 122
FIXED WING: 76
HELOS: 46
VFA/VF: 16

Looks like this class fared well. Notice the # of nuggets is about 20 shorter than my last report. What will it look like next issue??

GO DAWGS!!

 

[kmc9280]

Does Wings of Gold by chance show the stats for Marine Aviators and if so what are they? Thanks.

Kevin

 

[Rainman]

Kevin,

slightly different report. . but one can go to the TW5 website there are statistics listed for this fiscal year. They are updated from 01Oct to 31Jul. . . . Being 1 of the 2 wings. .it shows 30-37% of Marines (by squadron) got jets. Very few Herc guys. Rest helos.
https://www.cnet.navy.mil/tw5 I think

as for the LCDR. . I'd guess no on the flight surgeon. . Didn't think they went through selection. . . just several flights @ primary. . that's what our docs are telling us?! Weird. . Guy must have been a lateral transfer OR a retread?

Semper Fi

 

[Gatordev]

Probably just a retread. They go back through all the time. There was an IP in primary who was a helo pilot going back through for jets. I know others do that as well.

 

[Dave Shutter]

From the guys I know in Primary right now: From the man running the Nugget Farm...6 jet slots per month (CNATRA wide) until Mar 03'. Others say it's even less than that. Sounds like a huge backlog on planet T-45.

 

[Jack]

The huge back log on Planet T-45 is directly attributed to the fact that they are cutting way down on the number of guys who go to Meridian to fly the T-2C first. The huge, almost, all at once push towards the TS idea put a big hurt on the flow through the pipe. They barely had enough jets to support a flight sked of regular advanced students (i.e. coming down the hall from T-2s). Then they started taking TS guys onboard without doing anything about the available assests shortage (shortage of IPs, and the aforementioned jet problem). Granted they are getting a new jet every month, that is not fixing the problem. Long story short expect this 'backlog' to go on for a year or two while the powers that be lead Meridian through the transition to a total T-45C fleet with no T-2Cs... Sorry for you guys.

 

[leonsparx]

Drum roll please....

NUGGETS: 122
FIXED WING: 76
HELOS: 46
VFA/VF: 16

all right, can someone explain what this means, in english? Does it mean that 122 were admitted to API and have yet to select? And the remaining numbers refer to those who have just selected?

 

[Gatordev]

quote:
Drum roll please....

NUGGETS: 122
FIXED WING: 76
HELOS: 46
VFA/VF: 16


What it means is that out of 122 winged aviators (in whatever period it's measuring), 76 went fixed wing and 46 went helos, which equals 122. Of that 76, 16 went VF/VFA (Tomkitties or Hornets). The rest of that 76 presumably went VAQ, VAW (I think...can't remember what that means), VP, or "other."

Jack, what's the Prowler alphabet soup? I forget.

 

[Jack]

VAQ V (fixed wing) A (attack) Q (electronic). I've never seen the breakdowns like that before. Usually its broken down into Helos, TacAir (to include Prowlers and Hoovers), and Fixed wing others (P-3s, E-2s, C-2s, E-6s).