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The end of NATO?

Randy Daytona said:
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We should do it because it is in our interest to do it.

Why should we depend on someone else to do something that is in our interest to ensure gets done? Russia’s stupid move gave us a grand opportunity.

You don’t think diminishing Russia’s threat will put us in a better position against China?
 
sevenhelmet said:
If the goal is to not ever be called a hyprocrite by the American people, I have some bad news…

We can make tough budget choices AND defend choices like keeping Ukraine in the fight. I’m just concerned this administration doesn’t want to.
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The American people don't want to.

The goal is to win elections.

Do you think a candidate who runs on a platform of expanding support for Ukraine would win in 2028?

Keep in mind the key issue will be the social security fund going broke.

(yes, I understand these are different pots but 200,000,000 voters don't)
 
taxi1 said:
Did the Republicans have a platform in 2024?
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Project 2025 was a platform, I suppose.

On the Ukraine thing, I don’t think it needs to be the headline issue, but I do think it’s important.

But what I think is pretty irrelevant to modern politics. I’m one of those unaffiliated moderates. Yuck.
 
taxi1 said:
We should do it because it is in our interest to do it.

Why should we depend on someone else to do something that is in our interest to ensure gets done? Russia’s stupid move gave us a grand opportunity.

You don’t think diminishing Russia’s threat will put us in a better position against China?
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It is not wise for Oceania to simultaneously fight EurAsia and EastAsia. The absolute last thing you want is to tightly bind the unlimited natural resources of Russia to the massive industrial capacity of China (congratulations free traders).

We have limited resources. Those resources need to be focused on a rival for which Europe is of nearly zero help.

Again, why can’t 500 million Europeans with 20x the GDP of Russia handle the Ukraine conflict, especially showing how ineffective the Red Army is?
 
Irony being that Germany blocked Ukraine's admission into NATO during Obama's administration.

(tbh I agree with their reasoning)
 
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