T-34 vs T-6

[Steve Wilkins]

Yeah, cause 45 AOB vs 30 AOB in a T-34 doing 170 kts is such a huge difference

No different than any other fixed winged aircraft. Airspeed is irrelevant. C-172 doing 100 kts with 45 AOB will experience the same load factor (respectively in G's) as that T-34C doing 170 kts with 45 AOB.

 

[Fly Navy]

No different than any other fixed winged aircraft. Airspeed is irrelevant. C-172 doing 100 kts with 45 AOB will experience the same load factor (respectively in G's) as that T-34C doing 170 kts with 45 AOB.

You are right, load factor is the same. However, things don't happen all that magically faster. Sure, you get to downwind faster, but not by that much, and it doesn't matter, it's not a rocket. I just laugh at Corpus guys cause they think their break turn is that much tougher. Plus, it's fun to mess with lowflier03

 

[lowflier03]

Not tougher, more fun.

 

[Fly Navy]

Not tougher, more fun.

That I'll give you, more AOB is always more fun

 

[Steve Wilkins]

You are right, load factor is the same. However, things don't happen all that magically faster. Sure, you get to downwind faster, but not by that much, and it doesn't matter, it's not a rocket. I just laugh at Corpus guys cause they think their break turn is that much tougher. Plus, it's fun to mess with lowflier03

I see what you were trying to say now. Thought you were trying to correlate the airspeed and AOB to the load factor. I see you were trying to say something all together different than that....more of an efficiency b/t the two bank angles. Well now, airspeed does make a difference in that. But given a constant airspeed, the difference b/t 30 and 45 AOB is minimal.

 

[nittany03]

No different than any other fixed winged aircraft. Airspeed is irrelevant. C-172 doing 100 kts with 45 AOB will experience the same load factor (respectively in G's) as that T-34C doing 170 kts with 45 AOB.

And if we get to the point where we're worried about pulling 1.414 G's, we have seriously messed up . . .

 

[lowflier03]

Well when I was in Corpus we had a few G limited AC. Those sucked to fly, you couldnt really do any hops in them except BI's. I think 2.5 was the limit but I cant be sure.

 

[Fly Navy]

I see what you were trying to say now. Thought you were trying to correlate the airspeed and AOB to the load factor. I see you were trying to say something all together different than that....more of an efficiency b/t the two bank angles. Well now, airspeed does make a difference in that. But given a constant airspeed, the difference b/t 30 and 45 AOB is minimal.

Definitely, agreed. Just a miscommunication.

 

[Load2Pilot]

So am I to understand that the Navy will use the T-34 as its entry level trainer from now until FY 2007, when procurement will begin again?

 

[gregsivers]

So am I to understand that the Navy will use the T-34 as its entry level trainer from now until FY 2007, when procurement will begin again?

Try something like 2012. At least I think I heard that one recently, but I won't swear by it or say its reliable. They're replacing the T-34 sims here at NASCC with brand new ones, don't think they'd do that with only 2-4 years of T-34 use.

 

[nittany03]

Well the government is not exactly known for efficiency . . . and at Whiting anyway that involved replacing perfectly good sims that somewhat flew like a T-34 with Bizarro World sims which randomly crashed and flew nothing like a T-34.

 

[Lawman]

The total transition will take awhile. Mainly nothing in Corpus has long enough runways for its use. Leave it to the beancounters to buy an AF aircraft that has no beta and crappy brakes.

But?But?.....Its prettier

 

[gregsivers]

But?But?.....Its prettier

What? You don't like orange and white? Come one man.

 

[AllAmerican75]

I agree, that orange and white paint scheme looks much better than the Air Force knockoff paint scheme on the T-6. :icon_smil

 

[Pags]

Well the government is not exactly known for efficiency . . . and at Whiting anyway that involved replacing perfectly good sims that somewhat flew like a T-34 with Bizarro World sims which randomly crashed and flew nothing like a T-34.

you didn't like the bucking bronco sims?