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Stupid questions about the Rhino (Super Hornet)
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The Army experimented first with notion of refueling in flight
The first successful aerial refueling took place on June 27, 1923, when a DH-4B carrying Lts. Virgil Hine and Frank W. Seifert passed gasoline through a hose to another DH-4B flying beneath it carrying Lts. Lowell H. Smith and John P. Richter.
The next day another refueling flight was made in an attempt to break the world record set by Macready and Kelly in the T-2 on Oct. 5, 1922. Unfortunately, a gasoline valve in the receiver airplane became plugged, and Smith had to make a forced landing in some mud flats near North Island after almost a full day in the air. The airplane flipped onto its back on landing, and its propeller was cracked.
Two months later on Aug. 27-28, Smith and Richter made an endurance flight which lasted 37 hours, 15 minutes, with 16 refueling contacts. During this flight, they set 16 new world records for distance, speed and duration. On Oct. 25, 1923, Smith and Richter flew nonstop from the Canadian to the Mexican border, a distance of 1,250 miles, by being refueled three times while in the air. The theory of extending the range of an airplane by mid-air refueling became a demonstrated fact. The rest is history taking us to routine aerial refueling daily.
Although not a routine practrice in WWII, immense distances from captured island bases to Japan resulted in Navy, RAF and Army Air Force experiments to extend ranges of bombers. The need bacame OBE as Marines captured Iwo Jima and Okinawa and long range B-29 operations commenced.
The Cold War and intercontinental bombing missions resulted in aerial refueling being a standard operational practice for tactical aircraft as well as the strategic bombing fleet. The Air Force settled on the boom method of transfer transitioning from probe and drogue method first introduced and in use by US Navy and other air forces in the world.
The F-105 was the TAC transition aircraft having the ability to use a Navy-style probe or the SAC receptacle to refuel.
By the advent of hostilities on Vietnam, it was a mainstream practice and a necessity for fighter bombers heading to North Vietnam and helicopters engaged in RESCAP missions allowing to reach deep inside North Vietnam to rescue downed pilots.
Even the Army experimented with refueling during Vietnam
Air Force graciously providing fuel to Navy customers during Desert Storm
HJ photo
Aw come on heyjoe, where's the Hoover?
To answer the thread question,
searching and reading up on a platform that interests you is fine,
but you should concentrate on step one. If you'd be happy flying a pinto with wings for beer money you'll be happy in whatever community you end up in. Best of luck, don't suck.
To answer the thread question,
searching and reading up on a platform that interests you is fine,
but you should concentrate on step one. If you'd be happy flying a pinto with wings for beer money you'll be happy in whatever community you end up in. Best of luck, don't suck.
MasterBates
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This picture is going to cause me to have to drink myself to sleep now....
Mostly because it's showing that they are making the E-2 SMALLER (its a photoshop job, the scale between the SupaBug and Hummer ain't right)
Look on the bright side MB, the Hummer is taller. 
MasterBates
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I've never looked up how long a Rhino is, they just seem smaller when I saw them on deck vs the Hummers/CODs. I stand corrected. I thought they were shorter in length than the E-2s by a good bit.
Air-to-air refueling is risky business no matter the platform.
Since this has seemingly turned into the tanker thread, the most AAR/mission has to be the Vulcan's Black Buck raids on the Falklands. I read in Admiral Woodward's memoirs One Hundred Days that it took 11 Victor tankers to support each sortie over the Islands. Not surprisingly, he railed against the RAF's inefficiency for such a pinprick.
Nope, real photo. Pax River has been doing IFR development with the E-2C since 2004. Get ready for those really long missions.....
http://www.dcmilitary.com/stories/061109/tester_28168.shtml
Say that after you've dumped down to max trap and then the deck gets clobbered. Besides, for the OEF/OIF hops we're doing nowadays, being able to top off on station would make a huge difference. Long as they put the shitter back in the AEC, I'm cool with it.
Blah Blah Blah however the bold and red part of your statement bothers me. Enjoy this time off you have on waiting for classes, because in 2 years you won't get all this free time off. You new guys just don't realize how great it is.