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Studying for primary

powder

Registered User
Just a quick one for anybody who's recently been through primary. Am starting in about three weeks, so I'm taking a little leave between now and then. I figured I'd take a few pubs with me to go over while on leave. Of the twenty-five pounds of books they issued me, which ones are the most relevant for the first few weeks, and what material is actually worth looking over before I get the classes? (i.e. what will I be able to understand without instructor guidance. I don't want to waste my time memorizing a bunch of stuff that I have no clue as to what it actually means.) Thanks.
 

Chubby

Active Member
You could start going over EP's, Engine Op Limits, and maybe systems. But seriously, enjoy your time off, you won't get very much of it for a while so enjoy it while you can.

By the way, I second the drinking motion.
 

powder

Registered User
I figured I'd get a few replies like this, and trust me, plenty of the above mentioned will be practiced. Seriously though, If I was going to go over something, what should I focus on to make the first few weeks smoother? Thanks everybody.
 

ChuckMK23

Standing by for the RIF !
pilot
powder said:
Actually, there are already quite a few posts along these lines, so disregard. I'll stop being lazy and look through the archives.

Bring your NATOPS and the FTI and start making index cards..
 

Steve Wilkins

Teaching pigs to dance, one pig at a time.
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Super Moderator
Contributor
powder said:
Just a quick one for anybody who's recently been through primary. Am starting in about three weeks, so I'm taking a little leave between now and then. I figured I'd take a few pubs with me to go over while on leave. Of the twenty-five pounds of books they issued me, which ones are the most relevant for the first few weeks, and what material is actually worth looking over before I get the classes? (i.e. what will I be able to understand without instructor guidance.
Dude.......Dude.......Dude! (If you're not a dude, I appologize, we are gender neutral on AW)

What kind of toxic sh!t have you been smokin? Take the leave and relax. If you must read, then read a good book. I recommend any by Tom Clany or even John Grisham. Though, there are many other authors out there to choose from.

If you feel you must, then get some EP flash cards and study those. At least with them, you can make a drinking game out of them. But take nothing else.

powder said:
I don't want to waste my time memorizing a bunch of stuff that I have no clue as to what it actually means.) Thanks.
Great, now let me turn this around the other way. Don't waste time memorizing a bunch of stuff that you don't have any clue what it actually means.
 

Goober

Professional Javelin Catcher
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^Good one - take it from a former struggler - course rules would be a good thing to look at. They'll make sense once you actually SEE the landmarks, but it'll help to know WHAT you're looking for in the first place.
 

gregsivers

damn homeowners' associations
pilot
Steve's idea of a drinking game involving EPs sounds kinda fun, wish I'd thought of that one. Not too sure how much I'd remember though, but its always an idea to try.
 

Goober

Professional Javelin Catcher
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I'm sure it's been posted time and again, but take a look at the Gerber Gouge. If you're in the T-34, it'll make a world of diff. I know Chad personally - awesome pilot. Literally one of the best fighter pilots I've ever controlled, and his info is a definite time saver while also a real, plain-English step by step (esp. if you're going to Whiting).
http://www.navygouge.com/
 

Elder

US Coast Guard C-130 Demonstration Team
I find the best way to learn EP's and op limits initially is to obviously look at them, and try to recite them outloud.

Then, once you think you have them, write them down, over and over until I cramp up in one hand and have to switch to the other.

And just when you can write them down a million times without thinking, start bouncing that tennis ball while verbally reciting the EP's.

Get yourself a blank op limit sheet and make a billion copies and fill them out until you're ready to die. Make sure you actually recite each item you are filling in the limit for. It's easy to memorize the limits in the order they are listed on the sheet, never really remembering what limit you're actually filling in (ie you know what number goes next). You can use this one http://www.bryanweatherup.com/gouge/Primary/Limitations.doc and then just edit out the actual entries, print a ton, and start filling them in over and over and over and over.

Gouge here:

http://www.bryanweatherup.com/gouge/Primary/index.shtml

http://www.navygouge.com/primary.html

https://cnatra.navaltx.navy.mil/cnatra/ppub_t34_pri.htm

CAT - PERT - LAAS - BOC

*shrug*

You'll be fine.. just stay on top of things.
 

Squid

F U Nugget
pilot
Agree with everyone else. Take your time off. Training is feast or famine. Enjoy your free time. That being said....

IF you must study, after the obligatory BOLD FACE EP's, look through the contact book for procedures (transitions, approach turn stall, landing pattern checkpoints, etc.. y aknow real basic stuff for the first 4 fams)

If you MUST study more... look through the instrument book. But only the Basic Instruments section. Timed turns, SRT, 1/2 SRT, S1.... Again, procedures only.

That way when you get in the plane or sim, you have a feel for the overall procedure and corrective actions if you aren't where you should be.

I will refer to my previous... RELAX, DO NOTHING.
 

ocjams

Registered User
Hey, I see there's a lot of gouge out there for the T34 and primary stuff, but what about the T-37 and the Vance gouge? I'm not AF, but I **UNFORTUNATELY** opted to go there....what was I thinking. Basically, I'm looking for the same in depth gouge for the T-37. Oh yeah, and maybe some plusses about going to Vance. Are there any?? I know this topic has been beaten like a dead horse in previous threads, but I'm just curious what to expect. By the way, what time do these 12 hour days start, cuz I'm not really a morning person. :sleep_125
 
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