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Starting Advanced

outlawz2323

Registered User
Any advice on what to start looking over before starting advanced??? Also, does anybody know about any good gouge for advanced??
 

Dirty

Registered abUser
pilot
None
Contributor
The gouge will be taken care of when you arrive. Should have a little time before starting. Get your books and start reading the novella ENG 1 & 2.. It's simply fascinating. Oh, and practice in the sim as soon as you start ground school... It's a cold hard reality on BI-10 when you had wished you practiced more.
 

SemperGumbi

Just a B guy.
pilot
Just like primary: Try to get way ahead before you even start and ye shall be rewarded with....wasted time.

Chill, dude. You'll get the sweet gouge when you get there.

Besides, you will have plenty of time to hate life while you are there.
 

BaconUSMC

New Member
pilot
If you know anyone there already, ask for gouge checklists and boldface stuff. You can start learning that, especially the boldface and limits. As for the rest--focus on practice sims, and backseat rides once you have your seat brief. Students that focus on these typically do well.
 

Firebert

Not a good Commando name
pilot
Practice sims make you all kinds of money (as stated above)...don't get in them til you start, there will be plenty of time to stare at those two screens for long periods of time while you are in ground school. Get the gouge and make your checklists nice and small, the T-45 cockpit is tiny.
 
make your checklists nice and small, the T-45 cockpit is tiny.

Use NATOPS PCL instead. what you will use in RAG and fleet and only authorized/approved checklist....plus your kneeboard will be full with over crap LOL. The Wing does however put out a checklist...make sure you use that one if you are going to use one and not the student hand down version.

Good gouge once said was do you know when the smartest you will ever be on Systems and NATOPS? Day you finish ground school. After that it is studying for flights and tactics (RAG and Fleet). Good gouge is get a hold of BOLD face and start with that. T45 has one of the longest list of bold face procedures. And never hurts to start with Chapter 4 of NATOPS. The systems/engineering stuff, you will get the gouge. Remember you are not trying to build a T45, just need to know what causes warnings/cautions lights to come on, what systems affected and what powers them etc. No one cares how many bolts there are on the T-45....answer, one for every nut LOL
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
BK, we are issued a kneeboard checklist to use. The top-folder checklist is somewhere between hard and impossible to use on startup/penetration/shutdown in an efficient manner.

Never mind getting that thing into or out of the pin storage (supposedly map) case.
 

bunk22

Super *********
pilot
Super Moderator
Are you part of the Tailhook selection? Anyone know the criteria for selecting jets vs E2/C2??
 

BaconUSMC

New Member
pilot
The tailhook syllabus is intended to provide motivation to students in Kingsville and Meridian. Previously, jet guys would show up with approx 95% certainty (5% prowlers) they would be going Hornets and would mention that to instructors from time to time (bad idea). In addition, we frequently had exceptional pilots in the E2C2 pipeline that we would try to transition to jets but could not due to needs of the FRSs.
The tailhook syllabus allows flexibility for the trawings, and motivation for the students. It has been integrated into both trawings, and the first student will be "selecting" in about 2 months. From what I understand of the numbers, it would not be unreasonable to assume you were jets while in the tailhook syllabus. Unless you are struggling with respect to GPA or frequently decorate the instrument panel with vomit, tailhook members have a very good chance of going jets at the end of the tailhook syllabus. This is all just gouge of course. Bacon
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
They still need just as many E2C2 drivers as before.

Just that now, its decided later.

What is nice, is that in TH, they will get IPs from all communities to help them make an informed decision.
 

Junior

Registered User
pilot
Use NATOPS PCL instead. what you will use in RAG and fleet and only authorized/approved checklist....plus your kneeboard will be full with over crap LOL. The Wing does however put out a checklist...make sure you use that one if you are going to use one and not the student hand down version.

For what it's worth, I have not used the NATOPS PCL for startup since Primary. The wing issued one was the standard in Meridian. Lemoore is big boy land, get the jet started but make sure you get everything done however you want.
 

a2b2c3

Mmmm Poundcake
pilot
Contributor
The wing issued one in Kingsville sucks. You would've thought that they would have let students designed it and then picked one which worked and met their criteria best but nooo they come up with the largest fastest worst checklist around. Seriously if the PCL was side open, it would have been a far better checklist than the wing issued one.
 

bunk22

Super *********
pilot
Super Moderator
The tailhook syllabus is intended to provide motivation to students in Kingsville and Meridian. Previously, jet guys would show up with approx 95% certainty (5% prowlers) they would be going Hornets and would mention that to instructors from time to time (bad idea). In addition, we frequently had exceptional pilots in the E2C2 pipeline that we would try to transition to jets but could not due to needs of the FRSs.
The tailhook syllabus allows flexibility for the trawings, and motivation for the students. It has been integrated into both trawings, and the first student will be "selecting" in about 2 months. From what I understand of the numbers, it would not be unreasonable to assume you were jets while in the tailhook syllabus. Unless you are struggling with respect to GPA or frequently decorate the instrument panel with vomit, tailhook members have a very good chance of going jets at the end of the tailhook syllabus. This is all just gouge of course. Bacon

Thats very nice, your explanation that is, but it has nothing to do with answering my question. Does anyone know the criteria for selecting jets vice E2/C2? Is it based on an NSS, FCLP grades, etc?
 
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