http://tailspinstales.blogspot.com/2010/05/you-know-youre-having-bad-when.html
This gives new meaning to the term "compound EPs."
This gives new meaning to the term "compound EPs."
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So you thought YOUR NATOPS check was bad . . .
- Thread starter nittany03
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Engine fire on takeoff:
Press.
Press.
Interesting story. When I was at the FRS, we joked that this video was a standard student NATOPS checkride:
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My dad's a driving instructor and he shows that to most of his classes.
Isn't this the aircraft that the Air Farce bought at the expense of the carrier force?
Meh. We got 5 more. At least a couple of them have to be spares, right?
It's amazing to think that a flight engineer was replaced by a small CRT or LCD screen and a small box full of microprocessors. That is a job that I would consider unenviable, especially on the old bombers. B36/B52. Monitoring that many engines, I would think the numbers would all just start to blend together.
Naaaaaaaah ... it's a piece of cake. But seriously, I initially almost changed my mind about getting out of the NAVY when I first saw the stuff depicted below -- I said "I'll never be able to do this, I'm screwed" ... and then I found out: "Hey, what do ya know?? I really CAN work this stuff -- and w/out a net". As a direct result of being an F/E, I actually became a better aircraft 'systems guy' (and a better pilot) on any subsequent bird I flew than I EVER was flyin' as an ATTACK-Bubba for UNCLE:
But REPLACE an F/E w/ a 'box' .... NO WAY!!! I always considered the single most important function of an F/E to serve as 'safety observer' -- another pair of eyeballs in the cockpit, if you will ... a guy to run checklists, a guy to back-up-the-back of the two heads in the window seats -- especially in a busy terminal traffic environment. The front seats all too frequently had their heads in the cockpit much (most?) of the time, so who's gonna' look outside ??? I think in the years I flew F/E, I probably picked up 80%+ of all traffic, whether called or just a visual pop-up ...
Besides, if you do away w/ the F/E ... who's gonna' go get coffee ???
Besides, if you do away w/ the F/E ... who's gonna' go get coffee ???
Nice
I have no doubt it made you a better aircraft systems guy. The amount of involvement the flight engineer had on some of those older aircraft was nothing short of amazing.
Even with the advent of TCAS, your point about visually scanning for traffic, or enabling more heads up time for the pilots is a very valid one. Flying into a busy terminal area like Atlanta or the NY TRACON area is just crazy. An extra pair of eyes could never hurt.
My head exploded at "planned 30-hour training mission."
More than 1.3? No thank you.
More than 1.3? No thank you.
I have never known an aircraft and its systems as well as I knew the DC-10 when I was plumbing (FE) on it. I could build that aircraft in my sleep. Totally different philosophies between FE and non-FE aircraft.
FE - How can we restore it or work around it to keep it all functioning?
Non-FE - Turn it off, what did we lose?
(I'm simplifying this a little but it's pretty close to the truth)