Side Honors

[STA21pilot]

If anyone can help I'd appreciate it.

I'm looking for the instruction, (USN Regs, Drill Manual, even Training Manual), that describes the number of bells for side honors at a shore command. We have a COL and she thinks she gets 6 bells, but I'm pretty sure an O-6 gets 4. We also have a LT General coming and he should get 8. Any help...

Thx.

STA21Pilot

 

[HeyJoe]

Easy...just "Ask Boats"

 

[hm2anderson]

0-6 = 4 Bells

Could not find the "official instruction" OPNAVINST 1710.7A is close...

The Naval Officer's Guide11th Ed. Chapter 5 pg 82.

O4 below = 2
O5 O6 = 4
O7 O8 = 6
O9 above = 8

"corresponds to the number of sideboys"

the manual also calls them gongs even thou at the ceremony you will hear
" Sound Four Bells"
"Captain, United States Navy, Arriving/Departing"
ding ding
ding ding

 

[HeyJoe]

Concur....the bell is sounded the number of times corresponding to the number of sideboys that the person rates. If it is for a shore ceremony and you have flag officer(s) being honored, you best look up "Ruffles and Flourishes" as well.

 

[STA21pilot]

I found it in the NAVEDTRA 14343 BM RTC manual. Thx.

 

[BigIron]

Could not find the "official instruction" OPNAVINST 1710.7A is close...

The Naval Officer's Guide11th Ed. Chapter 5 pg 82.

O4 below = 2
O5 O6 = 4
O7 O8 = 6
O9 above = 8

"corresponds to the number of sideboys"

the manual also calls them gongs even thou at the ceremony you will hear
" Sound Four Bells"
"Captain, United States Navy, Arriving/Departing"
ding ding
ding ding

Ring the bells first, then render the honors.

If the VIP has a title, then you say that instead of his/her rank. Example: If an O-6 CAG arrives, you would ring 4 bells for his/her rank, then render "Carrier Air Wing 8, arriving."

If the SECNAV arrives, you ring eight bells, then render "Navy, arriving."

 

[scoober78]

Ring the bells first, then render the honors.

If the VIP has a title, then you say that instead of his/her rank. Example: If an O-6 CAG arrives, you would ring 4 bells for his/her rank, then render "Carrier Air Wing 8, arriving."

If the SECNAV arrives, you ring eight bells, then render "Navy, arriving."

Great story about that... We were in the drydock during a very extended refit...everything was all torn to @#$%. As anyone who has ever been in the yards...ok Steve maybe...can attest, the entire crew is pissy and bitter because nobody likes the yards. Anyway, it was a nasty hot south Georgia day, and my division was ass deep in some transformer/rectifier cabinets. Just as we were getting started we hear, "Ding ding, ding ding, Pennsylvania arriving!" in the 1MC. No big deal, skipper showing up as normal. Well we'd just gotten back to work and the 1MC keys again and we hear, "Ding ding, ding ding, ding ding, (JESUS! REALLY?!?!?), ding ding, Navy arriving!"

When I got my head out of the cabinet, I looked up and down the engineroom, and every head was staring at the nearest 1MC speaker, and the engineroom was dead silent! We all knew that it couldn't be good, but we were all thinking back to boot camp to make sure that what we thought was happening, really was.

That's right...and unanounced SECNAV visit. Awesome!

 

[TheBubba]

If SECNAV gets "Navy, Arriving", what's the CNO get? I was under the impression the CNO got the "Navy, Arriving".

 

[BigIron]

Naval Operations, arriving.

 

[DanMa1156]

The President gets "United States of America, Arriving," correct? Heard that at school, I assume it's true.

 

[BigIron]

United States, arriving.

 

[Gator NFO]

So there I was in the Gulf back in 2004, TAD shooter onboard CVN 73, in the gear pit, giving the Boss a green deck for the early morning COD -- Ding ding, ding ding, ding ding, ding ding, Naval Operations arriving ... Boss had to wave off the CNO on the first pass because there wasn't an LSO on the platform...WTF? Good thing the CNO was a SWO and probably didn't know any better. At any rate, it wasn't the shooters getting yelled at this time.

 

[BigIron]

So there I was in the Gulf back in 2004, TAD shooter onboard CVN 73, in the gear pit, giving the Boss a green deck for the early morning COD -- Ding ding, ding ding, ding ding, ding ding, Naval Operations arriving ... Boss had to wave off the CNO on the first pass because there wasn't an LSO on the platform...WTF? Good thing the CNO was a SWO and probably didn't know any better. At any rate, it wasn't the shooters getting yelled at this time.

5MC: "Paddles, pick up the phone....... Paddles....."

I bet there was a collective ass-handing after the show.

 

[navy09]

United States, arriving.

I once heard that this is why we could never have a USS United States. Not sure if it's true, but it makes sense.

 

[BigIron]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_United_States

It might sound redundant to have : United States Ship United States.

You could tell the difference by how many bells are sounded before the honors. Captain = 4. POTUS = 8.