Shutdown

[cinnabon]

So since it looks like funding for the government is gonna dry up come Tuesday, anyone have any idea how that affects operations at OCS? Assuming folks in uniform are still being paid, that still leaves civilian instructors at OCS looking at furloughs, no?

In any case how exciting no? Ahhh, the sweet smell of the collapse of democracy.

 

[Tycho_Brohe]

So since it looks like funding for the government is gonna dry up come Tuesday, anyone have any idea how that affects operations at OCS? Assuming folks in uniform are still being paid, that still leaves civilian instructors at OCS looking at furloughs, no?

In any case how exciting no? Ahhh, the sweet smell of the collapse of democracy.

The instructors at OCS aren't civilians, they're officers. I believe they're mostly class officers, in fact. I know our sister company's class officer taught seapower.

 

[cinnabon]

Ah gotcha. So all good for OCS then I imagine.

 

[Tycho_Brohe]

Ah gotcha. So all good for OCS then I imagine.

Well, there are civilians working at NS Newport who might have to worry a bit. First thing that comes to mind is the folks at PSD, who handle all the paperwork and everything. OCS candidates deal with them mostly around the first and last few weeks of their training, especially just before graduation. They're way too busy to be furloughed for, say, a week or two at a time, since they're always busy with either an incoming or an outgoing class, but I imagine they could implement a four-day work week if they needed to.

 

[BusyBee604]

So since it looks like funding for the government is gonna dry up come Tuesday, anyone have any idea how that affects operations at OCS?

I don't think anyone knows, it's all speculation. Recent history tells us they'll conjure up a dramatic, last minute (temporary) fix of perhaps 3-6 months funding. Then, extensive patting of themselves on the back for courageously forestalling a government shutdown (during a period when they should be negotiating a long overdue budget). Can continues "down the road" AGAIN, toward next crisis!
BzB

 

[Gatordev]

IF no provision is added at the last minute and IF the shutdown occurs, military members should NOT expect to be paid until the "shutdown" has ended. Then members will be back paid immediately (vice the next pay period).

Lots of "ifs."

 

[Kyler Boeck]

There was a bill passed that says the military will be paid even if there is a shutdown.

 

[Renegade One]

PT…inspections...more PT…more inspections….will continue unabated. However, there will be no messing or dining facilities available; candidates will have to do their own laundry in the sinks or commodes. Think of it like being on Guadalcanal in 1942. But…they will get commissioned at the end…assuming there's a carbon-based life-form available to do the paperwork. I don't think Newport has ever done "battlefield commissions" since…well, I dunno.
Seriously…don't sweat it…if you've already classed up. If not…like you...maybe delays. Again, I dunno.

 

[BigBadBoJenkins]

There was a bill passed that says the military will be paid even if there is a shutdown.

I thought that was proposed, but hadn't been passed yet.

 

[cinnabon]

Passed in the house, senate won't be back in session until tomorrow. From what I read the bill passed would keep DOD civilians on the payroll as well. Seems something dems might not want to take if you ask me, but we'll see.

 

[alaurin]

I think we should just refuse to pay our senators and representatives until they pass a bill. If it worked for California, it can work for them.

 

[xj220]

I guess we'll all be doing pro bono work.

 

[jcj]

Passed in the house, senate won't be back in session until tomorrow. From what I read the bill passed would keep DOD civilians on the payroll as well. Seems something dems might not want to take if you ask me, but we'll see.

Bill passed 420 - 0 in the house (because who in their right mind would vote against continuing mil pay) but several house members of both parties criticized it as a bad bill. My guess is Reid will use a Senate procedural process to keep it from ever getting to the Senate floor.

Although they have played brinksmanship and then came up with a deal at the last minute in the past, I don't think so this time. There are too many hard line positions and the parties (especially the Republicans) are letting their most extreme faction drive their agendas.

I think the Senate will reject the House CR, ignore the troop funding bill, point the House to the clean CR the Senate has already sent over and otherwise do nothing. Reid will try to protect the Senate from controversial votes and Obama from having to use a veto by controlling what gets to the Senate floor. Everyone will be watching who takes the worst beating over the shutdown and who has to cave first. The conventional wisdom is that a shutdown will be worse for Republicans and the House will have to blink first, but the conventional wisdom was that the cuts required in the sequester were so bizarre and painful that this congress would surely compromise and solve the debt issue rather than let them happen.

 

[BigBadBoJenkins]

I think we should just refuse to pay our senators and representatives until they pass a bill. If it worked for California, it can work for them.

I think this was proposed, but was unconstitutional somehow

 

[cinnabon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-seventh_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

I'd forgotten about this one, but you're right. And in any case, they'd have to pass the law not paying themselves by themselves, plus all but a few of them are well into millionaire territory.