• Please take a moment and update your account profile. If you have an updated account profile with basic information on why you are on Air Warriors it will help other people respond to your posts. How do you update your profile you ask?

    Go here:

    Edit Account Details and Profile

Road to 350: What Does the US Navy Do Anyway?

If Trump's predilection for sympathy toward corrupt leaders being held accountable weren't so obvious, I'd think this was just an exercise in gaslighting. People in Congress and the media need to hold this example up against our actions vs the drug boats as the stark incoherence that it is.
I wonder what this guy from 2016 is doing now...

 
Imagine if the government and DoD were run by clear eyed adults instead of drunken toddlers? We might have 350 ships.....
Do you think this is more of a Navy problem or a political problem? If I remember correctly, both the LCS and the Zumwalt fiascos were from the Bush administration- Rumsfeld specifically.
 
Do you think this is more of a Navy problem or a political problem? If I remember correctly, both the LCS and the Zumwalt fiascos were from the Bush administration- Rumsfeld specifically.
The navy problem is a political problem because the navy (and the entire DoD) are inherently political organizations - by design. In an ideal world, they're not partisan organizations (lol), but by the very nature of being run by civilians appointed by elected officials - it's political. All that said, there's a VERY wide differnece between Rumsfeld era dysfunction and whatever this is...
 
Do you think this is more of a Navy problem or a political problem? If I remember correctly, both the LCS and the Zumwalt fiascos were from the Bush administration- Rumsfeld specifically.
All of the above. You will find plenty of contributors to boneheadedness across the board for all the new ship programs.

Where I do envy the submarine community is how more focused their decision making is. I’ve heard a whole lot less meddling in relation to sub programs compared to surface ships (to include carriers) during their design cycle.
 
All of the above. You will find plenty of contributors to boneheadedness across the board for all the new ship programs.

Where I do envy the submarine community is how more focused their decision making is. I’ve heard a whole lot less meddling in relation to sub programs compared to surface ships (to include carriers) during their design cycle.
Any insight into the Navy’s new Medium Landing Ship? That should be 35 of these in addition to the gators - and if these ships are assigned to the Corps, could any of the big decks be repurposed into drone carriers? One problem is the helo deck - it appears the only USMC helo that could land on it would be the Huey.

 
What a dumpster fire. Our acquisition process across the board just sucks. First the debacle with LCS and now this.
Nice NYTimes article with a graphic showing just how much of a design change the Constellations were.


As an experiment in deep linking, you can just click the video below and get the short attention span version of it.

 
Nice NYTimes article with a graphic showing just how much of a design change the Constellations were.


As an experiment in deep linking, you can just click the video below and get the short attention span version of it.

Thank you for the link.

As I have mentioned before, the decimation (actually decimation is a Roman term of killing off 10%) - the annihilation of the American shipbuilding industry is the fault of President Reagan and free trade.

AMERICA HAD MORE than 300 commercial shipyards in 1980 and produced dozens of ships every year. That production depended on federal subsidies, allowing the industry to compete with shipyards in countries with lower manufacturing costs. President Ronald Reagan, trying to shrink government, canceled the subsidies in the early 1980s, and American shipyards lost many of their private sector customers. Tens of thousands of workers lost their jobs as foreign competitors picked up the business. American shipbuilding collapsed.
 
Who could have imagined* that, if left to its own devices, the private sector would choose not to do things that are not as profitable but are nevertheless in the national interest? And that in the long run, we would suffer as a result?

* Besides every economist, to say nothing of people with common sense
 
Who could have imagined* that, if left to its own devices, the private sector would choose not to do things that are not as profitable but are nevertheless in the national interest? And that in the long run, we would suffer as a result?

* Besides every economist, to say nothing of people with common sense

Defense acquisitions is less profitable than commercial sales, but at least it makes up for it by burying you under an avalanche of bureaucracy. If that isn't enough, you too can be accused of being a "dirty profiteering contractor".

So. Much. Fun.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top