He's just saying that asking what it was like to sit on a board is a clever way of asking what do board members look for, and therefore, "what are my chances?"
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Recruiters/ROTC
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Actually it wasnt meant to be devious at all (really). That topic of percentages/chances has been beat to death. I wasnt asking about what they want, but instead what the quality/enjoyment is offered by serving on it.
As for the thread overall...
I was thinking first about how from past ROTC experiences I have met more often than not "terminal" people. I was talking to some military friends about this to them and they said that is somewhat typical. My logic was that it would seem that they would want future stars of the Navy (or whatever branch) recruiting to get the best possible people into the service. From reading here it appears that recruiting does appear to be mostly a career ending tour (not that it kills your career, but that you would do it as you close in on 20/retirement).
Again as for the board, I was thinking along the same lines. I imagine it to be interesting to sit on a board and help pick what the future of the Navy is to look like. At the same time, it may be really boring and you dont want to do it.. like all day you are stuck just staring at various folders and instead of feeling like you are shaping the future, it feels like a chore. The best way to find out which it is, is to ask.
Anyways, just trying to learn all I can. Stand by for future questions, and hopefully they wont seem so devious.
As for the thread overall...
I was thinking first about how from past ROTC experiences I have met more often than not "terminal" people. I was talking to some military friends about this to them and they said that is somewhat typical. My logic was that it would seem that they would want future stars of the Navy (or whatever branch) recruiting to get the best possible people into the service. From reading here it appears that recruiting does appear to be mostly a career ending tour (not that it kills your career, but that you would do it as you close in on 20/retirement).
Again as for the board, I was thinking along the same lines. I imagine it to be interesting to sit on a board and help pick what the future of the Navy is to look like. At the same time, it may be really boring and you dont want to do it.. like all day you are stuck just staring at various folders and instead of feeling like you are shaping the future, it feels like a chore. The best way to find out which it is, is to ask.
Anyways, just trying to learn all I can. Stand by for future questions, and hopefully they wont seem so devious.
Ok, I see. I was in the promotion board frame of mind and I didn't get that reference.
pdx
HSM Pilot
A recruiting tour does not have the same effect on most non-aviation designators.
Though I've never sat on a statutory board (or otherwise) up at PERS in Millington, I've known many many officers who have. The one thing they always say is that every officer should go sit on a board. Supposedly, it is that eye opening (read: educational). From what I gather, you really get an insider's look at what belongs on fitreps and what doesn't. Wan't to know how to write a great fitrep....sit on a board. I'm sure the same applies to other types of boards such as for lateral transfer.
It is becoming less likely to see warfare qualified line officers in recruiting. More and more of those jobs are filled with E-7 and above or the new HR designated officers. I have not seen a warefare qualified guy in my NRD for over 6 years. I am the only fleet experienced officer, and I am a drilling reservist.
While recruiting might be neutral, that is because it is viewed, as mentioned above, as an indication that you have already decided to leave. The thing about recruiting though, is that it is very quantitative. So if a guy does well, he is rewarded, no politics. Rack up the numbers and you will be treated well. Another problem with recruiting and ROTC is that the pool of peer officers you compete with is very small. Hard to break out on a FITREP when you are one of three or four. Big deal. If a guy does decide to stay in, he may be able to survive the recruiting job just as well as anyone that went well outside of his warfare speciality for shore duty. In my day it was better then neutral. I knew three former recruiters that made command and my recruiter made CAG. Still, these day, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone that didn't think he was getting out.
While recruiting might be neutral, that is because it is viewed, as mentioned above, as an indication that you have already decided to leave. The thing about recruiting though, is that it is very quantitative. So if a guy does well, he is rewarded, no politics. Rack up the numbers and you will be treated well. Another problem with recruiting and ROTC is that the pool of peer officers you compete with is very small. Hard to break out on a FITREP when you are one of three or four. Big deal. If a guy does decide to stay in, he may be able to survive the recruiting job just as well as anyone that went well outside of his warfare speciality for shore duty. In my day it was better then neutral. I knew three former recruiters that made command and my recruiter made CAG. Still, these day, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone that didn't think he was getting out.
I don't personaly know anybody from the hornet community who has gone to ROTC. It is not even an option for pilots (too many cockpits to fill). I've heard of one WSO who is doing it, but my guess is they will never make department head right now if they choose to stay in. All of that being said, I would love to do a tour as an ROTC instructor. Work on my masters, teach one three hour class a week, plenty of time to work out, weekends off, sailing, campus environment (vice lemoore), what a great job.