Question for all those who can help!

[kraemer77]

I have a question maybe somebody can help me with. I was told by my recruiter, with NRD ATL, that they are not going to submit my package until the beginning of fiscal year 2003. Has anyone else working with NRD ATL, or any other recruiting command for that fact, been informed of this delay, or am I the only one? My package is complete, have pretty good stats, but my recruiter tells me that good candidates are being turned down--and she tells me it is because of the end of the fiscal year. If anyone has been told the same thing please let me know. I am motivated and ready to move foward but if she is right...I want to take the best opportunity I can get.

Kraemer77

 

[sonnyb]

the recruiter at NRD Montgomery has told me the same thing. My recruiter will send my package off in October. All I need to do is complete the PRT. He says that my chances will increase substantially if we wait until October.

 

[cman]

Kraemer, this is just what I'm thinking based on my experience and what my recruiter has told me.

When I finished the ASTB last week, my recruiter suggested geeting it turned in before the end of the fiscal year. The reason being that after 1 OCT, the application packages would come flooding in.

So why is this? He didn't really say, but my feeling is that most recruiters have met their quotas for this year. After the new fiscal year starts, they will be back at zero. Why put a candidate in now (especially if the package looks good) if you can wait a month and have that notch count for next years recruiting quotas? That may be what's going on with your recruiter. But that's just what I think and I could be totally off base. It may be that your recruiter is right and you'd be better off waiting. I just don't have enough solid info to tell you either way. I don't know how many total my recruiter has put in this last year, but I do know that he has put in 2 sna's and 2 snfo's since Jan.

One other thing though. I would think that as long as you meet all the academic and physical reqs, you, and not your recruiter, should be responsible for when your package is sent.

Again, that's just my 2 cents. Hope it helps.

Chris

 

[Vic]

My recruiter told me straight up that his station had met the fiscal year goals. I was accepted for a pilot slot back in June for a March 03 OCS date. He then asked me if I could wait until Oct 1 to sign my contract, so I would go towards next year's goal. If he had not jumped through hoops to get me in I would have said no, but since I don't think I would have gotten in with out his personal recommendation, I gladly said yes. So the way it sounds to me is that all of you that are getting put off til October are either getting jerked or your recruiter is not on the top of his/her game.

Don't sweat the small stuff!

 

[kraemer77]

Does anyone have any recommendations for myself or anyone else who is currently in this position, ie being told to wait till October to submit? My recruiter told me that she would send up my kit whenever I wanted. My dilemma is that I already know that I am going to have to get a medical waiver so shouldn't the waiver process carry me past the end of the fiscal year? It seems that my recruiter has always been up front with me but I realize that you have to take every situation, and person, with a grain of salt. Should I request my recruiter to submit my kit anyway or should I sit tight and wait? It is kind of a double edge sword--if I submit now and my recruiter is correct I get turned down but if I submit in OCT like a great many other applicants, I could still be turned down just as easily because of the huge influx of viable candidates. Any suggestions would be beneficial in helping me come to some kind of acceptable decision.

Kraemer77



Edited by - kraemer77 on 08/21/2002 09:08:58

 

[cman]

My package is going up before Oct 1. Like I said, that's what my recruiter suggested. Maybe he hasn't met his goals for this year, or maybe he realy has my best interest in mind. I really don't know to be honest. These are my thoughts though. Nothing says you can't reapply.

By the way Kraemer, I don't know if you are shooting for pilot or nfo. I'll guess pilot. As for me, it's nfo (age restrictions). So what my recruiter told me is based on my situation. If you're going for pilot, that could be a whole new ball game as far as if you're better off waiting until Oct. I've heard from many different people that there are no pilot slots left at the moment. That will change with the new FY.

Chris

 

[robv182]

This is just my opinion, but anytime I send anything off to a board or BUPERS I do it myself and do it as early as possible. I send it express along with a return receipt. I want to make sure someone signs for it and I get the acknowledgement sent back to me. You will find out there is no other person that will take care of your career as well as you can. I don't trust anyone with my career. There are too many things that can happen while paperwork sits in the office waiting to be sent. After you send the package in, they will sit on it until they start taking applications again. If there are any errors in the package this pre screening time will give you a chance to square it away. Good luck.

 

[JTP]

Kraemer...I'm in ATL. I'm sending mine in at the end of the month. I don't care if she says no, because I am. You might as well. Worse thing that can happen is you get denied and they give you a reason. If you can fix the reason your denied do, and resubmit in FY 03.

Shoot me an E-mail. I want to talk to you more about what they're telling me.

YEAH COME ON!!

 

[Goliath112]

My recruiters over here in Honolulu are saying turn the packages in as soon as possible regardless of new fiscal year. I think that they are telling you to wait because they want you on next years sign-up. They are under alot of pressure to meet those "non-existent quotas". I could be wrong.

have I got a long way to run...

 

[tron tech two]

kraemer77,
These are all very good suggestions. Although, I will say waiting till October might be a good idea. New fiscal year = New budget = New Pilot/NFO slots. This will give you time to make sure your package is perfect. Taking your package and running it up on your own, around your recruiters, is almost like jumping the chain of commmand. You definitely don't want to piss off the people you might need help from later. Trust me on that one, they act like gods especially when you want something from them.

Another point is if you get denied in Sept and reapply in Oct there is a question on your application that asks (to some effect): "Have you applied and have been denied before?" Do you really want to mark YES and go down that avenue?

Later,
ET2

 

[Goliath112]

hey alot of people have to re apply. getting denied the first time and re applying can mean that you are really serious about getting in. Unfortunately when a good applicant gets denied it more or less due to available positions. just to be clear though about reapplying (you have to wait 6 months before reapplying right?

have I got a long way to run...

 

[Dave Shutter]

Kraemer...depending on what kind of waiver you need you'll probable be waiting that long if not longer. The general process for a med-waiver is a consult with a specialist, and then his reccomendation goes of to BUPERS. Usually if the consulting Doc gives you the nod you get it, he's the expert after all. I had to go to Bethesda for my consult and I waited a few months for an appt. Oct's right around the corner anyway. If you only have to wait a few months before submitting consider yourself lucky.

 

[kmac]

One more thing on fiscal year....

If you can really sit down and plan it out, figure out when the best time is to select (mid-March, April). Go back 22 weeks for Primary, say 3 weeks for a wait between that and API, 6 weeks for API, 5 week wait before that, and then 13 weeks for OCS (if you go that route). Add in 2 weeks for Christmas leave. Whatever that comes to, that's when you want to start OCS. I know it sounds like a long time, and it may actually end up just over a year. However, if you want your best chances for aircraft type, that's how you need to do it. You can take that advice from someone who got his second pick.

 

[Gatordev]

...but don't forget, when you get up every morning, get on one foot and hoop around 3 times until you start Primary. On the second Tuesday of every month, you have tap your head and rub your stomach at the same time for 10 minutes. Then take the derrivative of your commissioning date and add 52...

 

[robv182]

ET2 Tron Tech, let me clarify. I did not say to go around your recruiters and piss them off. Never bypass your chain of command. I said to take the final finished product and mail it yourself. You should definately have them assist you in getting the final product, but you can respectfully ask to mail it yourself and when you would like to. Get their input and make your decision. After all, it is your package and they should respect the fact that you are taking responsibilty for your career. If you apply and are not accepted, try again later with a stronger package. I am the divisional career counselor and have been in 12 years. I have somewhat of a clue or at least think I do. I have submitted 2 packages for chief with a good chance of making it this year, but I was already accepted to OCS. I have also put together numerous packages in my career for myself and my sailors. I don't have the number anymore, but you can do a search on the BUPERS sight and find the number for officer acessions. Call the person there and see what they say about submitting your package. The person at BUPERS is not in your chain of command, so there should be no problem with contacting him for the real scoop. When I called about my package they were very friendly. Hope this helps.