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Question about my Grandfathers service

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RHPF

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I know this is a question having to do with USAF (gasp) and isnt really the right place, but I have posted here before and got good answers so I am hoping to keep that going by finding out something.

My grandfather (who I never met) was a USAF pilot from about 1925-1970 or something along those lines, he stayed reserve until he passed away to my understanding.
Name: John Phillip Ertel
O5 Lt. Col.
Distinguished Flying Cross
Air Medal
Korean War
WWII
Asiatic Campaign Medal

His wings are Command Pilots wings.

With that given, I have no clue what a square patch in the bag of medals I have is. It appears to be either a faded dark navy blue, faded brown, or faded black background, with yellow/gold stiching around the border. In the center is a circle (same stitching), inside is a CG and an A beneath it. Going between the CG and over the A appears to be a large J. I have no clue at all and looked all over the internet with no success as to what the patch is for.

The only other information I was going to try to look into is... my understanding is he flew the Hump, and was shot down. In the process broke his foot, and walked out 10 days to safety. So maybe there is a way I can find out information about that stuff as well?

His children (my parents included) have very little, if any interest in this stuff, which is why their information is somewhat vague, and why I am for the most part just now hearing about all of this. Any help is appreciated.
 

RHPF

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After talking to my mom, it seems that odd looking J is actually a polo stick. And was from when he played polo. Not sure what the C, G, and A stand for but that explains what the patch is for. Thanks for looking at the post though.
 

Flash

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The patch could be a squadron patch or something random that he and his buddies had made.

There are some really good resources out there which you could contact to find out the definitive answer. I would try and start with the Air Force Museum, they might be able to point you in the right direction.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/

There are also veterans groups out there that might have info as well about units and personnel who flew the 'Hump'. My grandfather was in the 14th Air Force and the association he was in can provide all sorts of info for veterans of the 14th AF.

http://www.comcar.org/comcarhome.htm

http://www.sinoam.com

http://www.308thbombgroup.org/308_links.htm

Hope this helps.
 

helmet91

contemplating applying again...
slightly off topic but my great uncle was a ball turret gunner and he over the Hump many times...
 
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