I have a package nearly completed (I am enlisted and it is being routed) but I have a question that has recently come up. Prior to joining the Navy some years ago I had a couple criminal charges. I obviously got waivers for them when I enlisted and put them on my sf-86 for my security clearance. Recently someone very reliable that has seen many of these packages told me that because I was cleared to join my prior offenses did not need to be put on the 1420.1b application as long as it wasn't under a certain block in my service record (wherever they put NJPs). Does this sound correct? I want to make sure that I do this correctly and don't get myself in trouble down the line. I appreciate anyone's input.
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Question about application....
- Thread starter mojoman
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The instruction says "Block 29. Civil/Military Offense(s): fill out as directed. Important! Providing false information or failing to declare any civil/military offense(s) may result in non-selection for the program."
The actual application says "Civil/Military Offense(s): (List all incidents except minor offenses that impose a fine of $300.00 or less, exclusive of court charges.): Have you ever been cited, arrested, convicted, or fined for any violation of any law or ordinance? If yes, give complete description of incident(s).
State where and when each incident occurred, the nature of the offense(s), and the date and disposition of case(s). (Include NJPs and Courts Martial).
NOTE: FAILURE TO REPORT ANY SUCH INCIDENT MAY BE GROUNDS FOR WITHDRAWAL OF AN OFFER OF ACCEPTANCE INTO A
COMMISSIONING PROGRAM."
To me this says that I have to put anything in the application regardless of whether it happened before the navy or not.
The actual application says "Civil/Military Offense(s): (List all incidents except minor offenses that impose a fine of $300.00 or less, exclusive of court charges.): Have you ever been cited, arrested, convicted, or fined for any violation of any law or ordinance? If yes, give complete description of incident(s).
State where and when each incident occurred, the nature of the offense(s), and the date and disposition of case(s). (Include NJPs and Courts Martial).
NOTE: FAILURE TO REPORT ANY SUCH INCIDENT MAY BE GROUNDS FOR WITHDRAWAL OF AN OFFER OF ACCEPTANCE INTO A
COMMISSIONING PROGRAM."
To me this says that I have to put anything in the application regardless of whether it happened before the navy or not.
Yes, you have to put anything that was not a minor offense with less than a $300 fine (regardless if you already had to list it when you enlisted). Word of advice- whatever charges you had, make sure you write a statement explaining them and attach it to the 1420. You DON'T want to have charges in your package and not address them.
Thanks millsra! I know the Fleet OCS help desk told me that I did not need a statement for each charge. I had one in there that covered the 3 charges stating that they were before the navy and I have changed and would not do anything like that again. I took it out though when they told me not to include it.
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I have a question about the application as well. Section 9 a: "Have you ever been charged of a crime to include drug or alcohol use?"
Would a traffic ticket prevent me from marking "No"? I would think that this section, entitled "Illegal Activities," is not concerned with minor traffic violations.
Would a traffic ticket prevent me from marking "No"? I would think that this section, entitled "Illegal Activities," is not concerned with minor traffic violations.
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I would list it and make reference to waiver granted upon initial entry into service.