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Primary Gouge

Heloanjin

Active Member
pilot
Great site for supporting study material.

The knee board cards are fine, except if you need to use the maneuver or course rules ones in the air, then you don't know the procedures well enough to go fly. Freq cards are always a good thing to have on hand, especially for your solo.

As for the NSS calc, it doesn't work. While it might be fun to put in your numbers, whatever answer you get will in no way tell you how you are doing. It also can not reliably provide even an approximate NSS no matter where you are in the syllabus.
 

Gatordev

Well-Known Member
pilot
Site Admin
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It's really going to depend on your on-wing/squadron policy for Fam stuff. I'm a bit more strict w/ my onwings for non-TW-5 gouge than e6bflyer, only because it's just wasted time for me to see them looking down and THEN hammer them. I just wait to see how they do and it's apparent if they're prepared. In the end, it's the same result, just personal preference. However, if it's got a TW-5 on it, then it's legal to use.

As for BIs, if you're not using a gouge card for the maneuvers, you're stupid. But at least understand what you're doing. Probably the most important thing you could read from the above website:

I would HIGHLY recommend studying from the Pubs themselves and using the briefing guides as a secondary studying and cramming tool.

Very good gouge. My $.02.
 

bunk22

Super *********
pilot
Super Moderator
For you VT-6 guys, the Bunk is coming. Be afraid, be very afraid. Gouge, notes, looking down are all frowned upon :icon_rage


















I'm joking of course :eek: ....somewhat:D
 

Steve Wilkins

Teaching pigs to dance, one pig at a time.
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For all of you primary students, there is a new gouge website that was just set up by a VT-6 student at Whiting. It has very recent gouge, including flight by flight briefing guides, written by him as he went through the various phases of primary. This is good gouge, especially for Whiting studs, but please use it wisely. Check it out at www.bensgouge.com.
This guy doesn't even have a link to Airwarriors. He gets a down for headwork.
 

bunk22

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pilot
Super Moderator
(In a Spicoli tone) You DICK!!!

Reminds me of my 99 WESTPAC onboard the Connie, we had a mishipman rooming with us in our 6 man who looked almost identical to Spicoli.......thus his callsign, Spicoli.
 

kmac

Coffee Drinker
pilot
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For you VT-6 guys, the Bunk is coming. Be afraid, be very afraid. Gouge, notes, looking down are all frowned upon :icon_rage

This one time...
... in Osan, Republic of Korea, the Bunk just flat out screamed at me in the cockpit because I didn't file the appropriate SID (I filed straight to a waypoint). I had just flown the exact mission the day before, and realized that the controllers wouldn't assign you the departure anyway (even if filed) since their radar vectors would get you in the right direction faster. But no sirrrrrr..... here's a lesson to all of you future students:

THE BUNK GETS WHAT THE BUNK WANTS!

(or you won't be able to drink with him for at least a few hours)
 

bunk22

Super *********
pilot
Super Moderator
This one time...
... in Osan, Republic of Korea, the Bunk just flat out screamed at me in the cockpit because I didn't file the appropriate SID (I filed straight to a waypoint). I had just flown the exact mission the day before, and realized that the controllers wouldn't assign you the departure anyway (even if filed) since their radar vectors would get you in the right direction faster. But no sirrrrrr..... here's a lesson to all of you future students:

THE BUNK GETS WHAT THE BUNK WANTS!

(or you won't be able to drink with him for at least a few hours)

I was having a bad day. I think that was the only time I yelled at you. Plus, as I recall, I just had to deal with an angry DCAG (go figure) because one of my JO's had removed a giant steel door from a bulkhead and hid it. Wonder who that was :confused: Not an excuse on my part, just part of my bad day.
 

Dennis

C-17 Co
I couldn't for the life of me ever remember the altitudes on the legs of course rules so I wrote on a piece of paper in words (not pictures) what to do at each of the points along the way (desc to 1700 @ wherever). I also wrote on the same piece of paper the initial altitude and break direction for the OLFs so I wouldn't be stupid and bone that up. The last thing I had was the freqs and channel pairings. At least once I had the radio channelized incorrectly and had to look up the correct freq. Since I usually just tossed my blue brains and checklist in the map case, it was quicker to get it off my gouge sheet. I had that piece of paper under the one on top of my kneeboard and peeked at it to give me the warm fuzzies. But was it really gouge? I made it myself.

And as said above, if you don't have BI gouge w/ you, you're doing it wrong. But make it yourself. Put all the maneuvers on one little piece of paper. Since you made it yourself, you've already proved to yourself you understand it (and sort of chair flew it while you made it at least that one time).

Hell, I still use hand-made gouge in the C-17. For example, Mini notes to self on what to say when I'm briefing up whatever weird nonsense we're doing next. Or to make sure the AC didn't miss anything I expected to hear in his brief (how did you want me to set up the elect panel, sir?) or whatever.


The BEST gouge is keeping your ears open. Talk to the guys ahead of you and listen to them talking to each other. Soak it in like a sponge. This is the hidden key to pilot training.
 

KTBQ

Naval Radiator
pilot
Man, I wish i went through primary wherever you dudes with the gouged up blue brains went through. That was a big no no, at least with corpus sim dudes and -27 instructors (in the past year or so). I wouldn't have dreamed of taking a piece of paper with handwritten course rules, etc in the cockpit with me, I would have had one Navy issue onwing in my chili with the quickness. Nobody I knew did it, or let on that they did.
 

webmaster

The Grass is Greener!
pilot
Site Admin
Contributor
This guy doesn't even have a link to Airwarriors. He gets a down for headwork.
Concur!

I also have to say, that any sort of gouge in the plane was a major no no when I went through primary. I was looking down at my kneedboard one flight, and the IP wanted to see it after we landed, going through it for gouge, there wasn't any.

Now, when I went through Advanced, I had a gouge sheet for all the airports, too damn many OLFs....
 

Circle K

Registered User
pilot
Man, I wish i went through primary wherever you dudes with the gouged up blue brains went through. That was a big no no, at least with corpus sim dudes and -27 instructors (in the past year or so). I wouldn't have dreamed of taking a piece of paper with handwritten course rules, etc in the cockpit with me, I would have had one Navy issue onwing in my chili with the quickness. Nobody I knew did it, or let on that they did.

Definately concur with that assesment of 27. (Two years ago now) I could have really used some of the BI stuff on my kneeboard, but it was looked at for all 3 BI flights, and the entire second block of sims.
 
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