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Primary Gouge

navysoccer18

FNG
pilot
For all of you primary students, there is a new gouge website that was just set up by a VT-6 student at Whiting. It has very recent gouge, including flight by flight briefing guides, written by him as he went through the various phases of primary. This is good gouge, especially for Whiting studs, but please use it wisely. Check it out at www.bensgouge.com.
 

SlickAg

Registered User
pilot
The website brings up an interesting question on gouge in the cockpit. Are those blue brains cards acceptable? They'd be nice to have, but I was under the impression that any gouge in the cockpit is an automatic unsat flight w/ more repercussions to follow.
 

mules83

getting salty...
pilot
I had course rules drawn out in my blue brains. You get pretty familiar with them fast, but I still used them as a back-up on every flight; even on my solo checkride
 

scoober78

(HCDAW)
pilot
Contributor
Blue brains are not gouge....assuming of course that you haven't written anything on them. If you go on a flight without your blue brains...you deserve an unable on headwork.;)
 

SlickAg

Registered User
pilot
Blue brains are not gouge....assuming of course that you haven't written anything on them. If you go on a flight without your blue brains...you deserve an unable on headwork.;)

I'm talking about the cards with the penetration pattern and the PEL procedure drawn and written out...not checklists and the like.
 

jamnww

Hangar Four
pilot
I'm talking about the cards with the penetration pattern and the PEL procedure drawn and written out...not checklists and the like.

my on-wing in Primary followed the policy that everything in blue brains was cheating except for using it on your solo when you are alone...
 

Rubiks06

Registered User
pilot
Everyone i flew with didnt care....though they can tell if you are spending 90% of your time looking down at your knees. The patterns are good for the sims...but in all seriousness youve done them so much by the time you get to the plane you really dont even use them. When i was on my C4390 the instructor that was with me asked me if i had all the freq card in mine because we got diverted to south whiting for an emergency. All in all it really depends on the on-wing but 9 out of 10 arent going to nail you on it as long as your flying the plane and not trying to learn how from your blue brains.
 

navysoccer18

FNG
pilot
My onwing never gave me any rules regarding gouge in the cockpit. The only things that I carried in the plane were the course rules cards provided by Training Wing 5 during book issue and the comm card for the local area. I used gouge for the BI sims, but only after one of the sim instructors told me that gouge was virtually expected for the BI patterns. Any primary IP's want to weigh in on this issue?
 

ArkhamAsylum

500+ Posts
pilot
If you really want to gouge yourself up when you get into RI sims, go make copies of the radio transmissions in the blue binders that the instructors use in the sim bay. Have them sitting on top of the glare shield, so you can follow a script. I knew a lot of guys that got 4's or 5's on each hop using this method.
 

othromas

AEDO livin’ the dream
pilot
I used gouge for the BI sims, but only after one of the sim instructors told me that gouge was virtually expected for the BI patterns. Any primary IP's want to weigh in on this issue?

I'm not an IP, but I vividly remember a flyer one of the senior Marine IPs put up telling us that people had been doing this (shrinking the FTI pages down to kneeboard size) and flying off of them in the sims, and that if we got caught doing it, it'd be an automatic ready room down. I was really shocked when I read the above since I spent a lot of time memorizing the d@mn things.
 

Malice 1

Member
pilot
Bensgouge is a neat site. the Nss calculator is cool to play with.

as for the whole "gouge in the cockpit issue", I thought that anything we put in our bluebrains was fair game?
 

scoober78

(HCDAW)
pilot
Contributor
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So uh...what's wrong with this picture???
 

e6bflyer

Used to Care
pilot
I tell my onwings that anything you want to bring is fair game. I am going to know if you are looking down and reading off your knee. Those procedures need to flow out of you and you need to fly. If I catch you looking down, I am going to bust you on it. On a solo, you should have the frequency cards and you should know how to put in course rules and area boundaries on the GPS, along with being able to use the nearest button.

I only looked at the website for a minute, but I would say one of the best I have seen, especially for Whiting guys. The NSS calcualtor is interesting, but I wouldn't put too much faith in it because it doesn't use the CNATRA average. It will tell you approx. how you are doing, though.
 
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