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zippy

Freedom!
pilot
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For those who miss the Phrog, Columbia Helicopters has some that it flies in Afghanistan. 30 days on/off rotation for crews.
 

Gatordev

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pilot
Site Admin
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For those who miss the Phrog, Columbia Helicopters has some that it flies in Afghanistan. 30 days on/off rotation for crews.
I talked to the Chief Pilot today and it sounded like it was a bit more complicated. They like to hire for domestic work (it varied, but something like 14/14) first to train you and then send you off OCONUS, but sometimes that doesn't always work out. The basic OCONUS rotation was 28/28, but the travel time counted against your time off. Interestingly, they weren't really concerned about Boeing time, but were more concerned with rotary PIC (1500) and long-line time. Not sure there's a set number, but the number "50-100 hours" was thrown out there. Terf and NVG time didn't seem to be a concern, either.
 

zippy

Freedom!
pilot
Contributor
I talked to the Chief Pilot today and it sounded like it was a bit more complicated. They like to hire for domestic work (it varied, but something like 14/14) first to train you and then send you off OCONUS, but sometimes that doesn't always work out. The basic OCONUS rotation was 28/28, but the travel time counted against your time off. Interestingly, they weren't really concerned about Boeing time, but were more concerned with rotary PIC (1500) and long-line time. Not sure there's a set number, but the number "50-100 hours" was thrown out there. Terf and NVG time didn't seem to be a concern, either.
Good info on the details. Sounds pretty standard for an Oconus rotational gig (travel out of off time and train conus first before sending downrange). Their hours preferences reflect the kind of flying they do in theater. The folks I talked to in passing seemed happy doing it. Apparently they're also hiring for aircrew positions as well.
 

ChuckMK23

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The irony is that when the last H-46E was retired, the Phrog fleet was at its most capable and sustainable state ever. NAVAIR was pulled kicking and screaming along the way, but HQ Marine Corps persisted and really developed a marvelous aircraft in the CH-46E in the last decade of its service life.
 

Pags

Pope of Chili Town
pilot
The irony is that when the last H-46E was retired, the Phrog fleet was at its most capable and sustainable state ever. NAVAIR was pulled kicking and screaming along the way, but HQ Marine Corps persisted and really developed a marvelous aircraft in the CH-46E in the last decade of its service life.
It's amazing how your readiness goes up when the number of flyers goes down and the number of cannibalization sources goes up.
 
I should add the best addition from the crew chief perspective was the electric pump on the utility hydraulic system.
Found a list of some of the modification from a Youtube video looking through a NATOPS manual at an airshow:

AFC-527 Armored Seats
AFC-530 AWICS
AFC-535 BFT
AFC-536 Overspeed Triple Tach
AFC-537 Forward ALE Pods
AFC-539 Aircraft Electrical Upgrade
AFC-542 HEFS System Removal
AFC-544 Wire Strike Protection System
AFC-545 Electrical Hydraulic Pump
AFC-546 Crash Attuning Crew Seats
AFC-547 HTA Charge AMP
AFC-548 Relocation of Tunnel Fairing
AFC-549 ECCB Upgrade
AFC-551 AIMS Enhancement
AFC-559 Replacement ICS
AFC-560 LAIRCM
AFC-561 Replacement Cargo Hook
AFC-562 #1 PTU
 
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