VT-4 was still doing guns training in late '71/early '72. Because my torso height was too much for the TF-9J that VT-10 was flying, I had to do my four jet hops in borrowed T-2C's from VT-4. The first hop I did was in a T-2C with gun pods, which resulted in an early bingo, as the fuel consumption from the extra drag was too great to allow for the completion of the assigned low-level nav hop that was the intro to jets. Everyone in VT-10 got one jet flight (a low-level) at that time. Those that got selected for jets got three more (one point-to-point TACAN hop, and two round-robin high-altitude hops).