He wants to be the next LT John McClellan.
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Officer to enlisted SEAL
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He wants to be the next LT John McClellan.
I wouldn't even give the benefit of you (or your"friend") making to the Stan'. I've seen hundreds of dedicated, it's all-I-ever-wanted-to-do would be frogmen get wrist sprain from ringing the bell after an hour of jack hammering in the surf behind BUD/s at 0300, shaking like a puppy sh*tting razor blades.
"Everybody wants to be a SEAL when it's sunny"
MR-
You may have jumped the shark with that last post.
-ea6bflyr
I seem to have missed this meme, Explain please.
For the record I thought the post about "being the first man of God in space" was pretty funny, and intended so.
It's all fun and games until Fonzie shows up with a pair of water skis...
pharaelga
Constantly lost in the sauce....
How did you make my computer do that..... SORCERY!!!!!!!
vxc961
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This horse is pretty well beaten, but I was a SWO who did a tour with the Special Boat Unit as det cdr. Our CO/XO/OPS were all SEALs, and we worked pretty closely with the platoons too. Our CO was a flight attrite, and our task unit cdr was a former recon marine. People are correct in that there are plenty of enlisted SEALs with degrees and crazy prior service, but I've never met one who's been an officer (nor do I think it's possible, see below).
No matter what the age/rank limit is for officers, it's a pretty crappy deal for the SEALs and the officer in question. For anybody who transfers in, you're probably about an O-3 by the time you finish BUD/S, which puts you at about platoon cdr level. So you're at about the senior rank for a platoon (which is pretty much *the* operational element) and you really don't know squat. They can't really give you command of a platoon, and they can't really make you second or third "O" when you're senior to the commander (plus the other JOs are fighting for platoon time). So, after perhaps one short tour, as a SEAL LCDR your operational days are pretty much behind you.
Finally, I didn't see anybody mention it, but I *believe* when you're discharged as an officer, your DD-214 has a code on it that says "sorry, you can't even be enlisted".
-I have to put the disclamer that I was an observer in that community, and although I loved it, I'll obviously eat my humble-pie if anybody with better experience feels I need to.
No matter what the age/rank limit is for officers, it's a pretty crappy deal for the SEALs and the officer in question. For anybody who transfers in, you're probably about an O-3 by the time you finish BUD/S, which puts you at about platoon cdr level. So you're at about the senior rank for a platoon (which is pretty much *the* operational element) and you really don't know squat. They can't really give you command of a platoon, and they can't really make you second or third "O" when you're senior to the commander (plus the other JOs are fighting for platoon time). So, after perhaps one short tour, as a SEAL LCDR your operational days are pretty much behind you.
Finally, I didn't see anybody mention it, but I *believe* when you're discharged as an officer, your DD-214 has a code on it that says "sorry, you can't even be enlisted".
-I have to put the disclamer that I was an observer in that community, and although I loved it, I'll obviously eat my humble-pie if anybody with better experience feels I need to.
Talked to a buddy of mine, retired CMC of an East Coast Team, one of the second group of Team 6 guys and all around good dude. His quote was, "it wont happen". If a guy quits a high profile program in the Navy once, then he is a quitter. Why would/should the teams pick a guy that has already shown he gives up. He said the ONLY way it could ever happen is if your friend knows someone in high places, ie dad has stars. And if said person got to buds, he probably wouldnt last very long as everyone would already know his story. His advice, and mine, finish your NFO training and pick a platform that you will enjoy.
Looks like NASA has realized that we may be short of astronauts in the near future, so you plan may have a chance after all!
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/07/nasa-needs-astronauts-report-says/?test=faces
"and the annual nutrition you expect over the next five years,” Rothenberg told FoxNews.com
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/07/nasa-needs-astronauts-report-says/#ixzz1XIx45jnc
I wonder why he thinks astronauts eat so much
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/09/07/nasa-needs-astronauts-report-says/#ixzz1XIx45jnc
I wonder why he thinks astronauts eat so much
I wonder why he thinks astronauts eat so much
I guess there must be a lot of fat and calories in that freeze-dried ice cream you can get at a museum...
Suh was awesome. That kid was dedicated to the bone.
So there is still hope. We starry eyed folks don't have to hang up our cardboard-box spaceships just yet!!!
I'm not saying Brett is wrong, but having done 4 years on CNATRA staff there are sob stories that are not standard. I'm no longer there and have no SA on this kids story, but just know that from time to time there are some kids that truly get screwed/attrited by timing and floating NSS that have objectively outperformed the guy that got winged, or selected jets, props, etc just the month before.