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nss and selection
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Note the slight hint of sarcasm in the idea. Recall the first "A modest proposal" (http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html) advocated cooking the infant children of an 'overpopulated' Ireland for the benifit of all. My idea was about as serious as Jon Swift's.
...I think you know what I meant, but I thought I'd add that just to put the 'O' in obvious.
...I think you know what I meant, but I thought I'd add that just to put the 'O' in obvious.
ENSsquid said:
If it was the same selection, and they had higher NSS, well that's pretty shady. Then again, they may have had recommendations AGAINST them for jets. That's quite possible. Just because you have a 50+ NSS doesn't mean you'd be good in a jet.
It doesn't surpise me if the Navy has a woman quota. It's wrong, but it doesn't surprise me.
I'd say the biggest factor is simply what slots are available the week you select. I'm not really sure if other factors besides your score and the needs of the Navy are calculated, but I've heard the theory about a quota. If anything they should look at the comments on your grade sheets instead of gender when they need a tie breaker.
If there is a quota, it isn't working. Can't speak for Meridian, but Kingsville in the last year-ish winged 4 female pilots and attrited more than that. (I'm combining jet and E-2/C-2 numbers here)
I don't think there's a quota simply because even if the higher ups wanted more female jet pilots, CNATRA himself does not sit on selection committees- those decisions are made by O-3s and O-4s, plus the squadron COs. Who knows whats its like to be an O-5, but most LTs I know wouldn't go along with that. It's the O-3s who write the gradesheets in primary, so there would have to be a rather wide conspiracy in order to have a quota in place.
I don't think there's a quota simply because even if the higher ups wanted more female jet pilots, CNATRA himself does not sit on selection committees- those decisions are made by O-3s and O-4s, plus the squadron COs. Who knows whats its like to be an O-5, but most LTs I know wouldn't go along with that. It's the O-3s who write the gradesheets in primary, so there would have to be a rather wide conspiracy in order to have a quota in place.
It is a crap shoot.....and it has a hell of alot more to do with timing than anything else. Your NSS only means what it means the week you select......so like someone else said, quit *****ing about people selecting other weeks then your own. So many factors, people in your squadron you select with, total people you select with, the multiplier for your squadron that month (adjusts your NSS up or down from your raw NSS )...and last but not least the number of slots for what is avialble.
As far as quotas.....I have no Idea, but it would not suprise me at all.
Prior flight time helped me early, but that was about it (maybe a little in RI's too). Once the "system" is figured out, everyone is on a level playing field........Prior flight time bubbas have to rid themselves of bad habits that dont go over in the Navy.
As far as quotas.....I have no Idea, but it would not suprise me at all.
Prior flight time helped me early, but that was about it (maybe a little in RI's too). Once the "system" is figured out, everyone is on a level playing field........Prior flight time bubbas have to rid themselves of bad habits that dont go over in the Navy.
wilsonator
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we could get started on how when the jet selections get thin, there are an overwhelming amount of 0-3 redesignates that get the slots (not all of them former FO's) anyone want to speculate on some special treatment in primary?
Why would you want to fly single pilot anyway?
NSS is incomprehensible... even more so in CTW-6. The T-6 bubbas were on MNTS... the T-34 studs were under the old above/below system. How do you compare those grades? Better yet, they suddenly decided to change that to send everyone to MNTS about halfway through our airnavs...
Then we got to advanced, and they're on the above/below system again.
I think the fortune cookie proposal might have had more basis in reality on how we selected than some magical mathematical system...
Then we got to advanced, and they're on the above/below system again.
I think the fortune cookie proposal might have had more basis in reality on how we selected than some magical mathematical system...
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