No fatties allowed...how does the Navy reduce the displacement tonnage of its sailors?

[insanebikerboy]

You think Sailors should be forced to take a pharmaceutical product against their will to lose weight? Are you fucking insane?

While I agree with you, I think you bring up a fascinating argument. We are forced to take myriad shots for health/deployment readiness, so why draw the line at a GLP? And I agree with your later post too, why stop at GLPs and not just go to anabolics? The ethics are really interesting.

 

[Spekkio]

Genuinely curious - how do you know that person is in standards?

My read of the updated situation is that because the measurement is over the belly button with the shirt lifted, there's a lot more people that can't somehow otherwise get away with whatever methods they used to do on the old rope and choke.

Am I 100% sure? No. But that's a 5'8", 230lb individual and AI seems image analysis seems to think he's close in. Plus, a day of fasting usually can knock 1-2" off the waist measurement due to the site being at the belly-button.

Anecdotally, I know my measurements for shopping for clothes. The BCA knocked 1.5" off. Plus you get an added inch or so of height for the bulk of your hair.

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

A few folks beat me to the punch here, but I have Sailors now who are on GLP and said their military PCM prescribed it, no questions asked. Very surprised.

 

[Brett327]

While I agree with you, I think you bring up a fascinating argument. We are forced to take myriad shots for health/deployment readiness, so why draw the line at a GLP? And I agree with your later post too, why stop at GLPs and not just go to anabolics? The ethics are really interesting.

Because having a vaccinated force reduces the chances of force wide, or platform wide epidemics that can immediately threaten the lives of Sailors and severely impact mission. TR pulling into Guam gives us a hint at how this can work. Fatness isn’t contagious, nor is it immediately life threatening to fat people or those around them. I think that’s an important distinction in viewing what the services should compel members to do.

 

[Brett327]

A few folks beat me to the punch here, but I have Sailors now who are on GLP and said their military PCM prescribed it, no questions asked. Very surprised.

Why does this surprise you?

 

[FormerRecruitingGuru]

Why does this surprise you?

Never would have imagined big military (guess DHA/BUMED?) would get onboard with prescribing GLPs unless it was for a legitimate health concern (like diabetes).

 

[sevenhelmet]

Never would have imagined big military (guess DHA/BUMED?) would get onboard with prescribing GLPs unless it was for a legitimate health concern (like diabetes).

I get this point-of-view. GLP1s a drug the sailor could be considered dependent on to maintain their condition- exactly the kind of thing I’d have thought the military would not approve, particularly as an elective treatment. Doubly so among aircrew.

But I was also clearly wrong about that.

 

[CommodoreMid]

Only reason I got offered was because of my other issues. If I had just been fat it wouldn’t have been offered. Losing the weight has helped the BP a bit (still need meds but easier to control), sleep still fucked.

 

[Spekkio]

Fatness isn’t contagious, nor is it immediately life threatening to fat people or those around them. I think that’s an important distinction in viewing what the services should compel members to do.

Obesity isn't contagious from a pathogen standpoint, but it is from a cultural / behavioral psychology standpoint.

The target demographic needs to be chiefs.

 

[Brett327]

Never would have imagined big military (guess DHA/BUMED?) would get onboard with prescribing GLPs unless it was for a legitimate health concern (like diabetes).

Or, you know, obesity? Seems like a no-brainer.