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I've noticed a lot of push-back against the greenie board lately, and a lot of it is coming from the LSOs themselves. Not sure why, but what used to be a good-spirited competition is now treated like a problem. I never understood why guys think it's bad for morale or somehow a negative influencer on how dudes fly the ball.
Guess it's just another Naval Aviation tradition that's dying. Sigh. Happily, the squadron I'm in still does the greenie board, and hopefully will continue to do so through deployment.
That's not how I view it, though there may be those who do, and I don't disagree with what you are saying. My mentality is that a fair or better pass that gets you aboard the first time (without breaking the jet) is good enough for me. Everyone says that, but fewer actually believe it. There are plenty of guys out there who get all bent out of shape when they get "faired out". I am not one of those people. I fly my passes comfortably on the happy side of the lens, and do my best to keep it there, even if that means I have some "fair" deviations that take place above the datums from time to time. The scariest passes I have seen are when new guys try to fly a "little crester", settle like a boss in the middle, and then they are off to the races at the ramp after they get a hard power call. Every hook slap, in flight, or long bolter I've ever seen has begun like that. Folks who were trying to get the OK and then they didn't. I feel like the greenie board can play into that, when people sweat grades too much, and not the bigger concern of just flying consistently safe passes that end in an arrestment. I don't think the board is a "problem", I'm just not convinced it is particularly useful. I'm also not a Top 5 guy, always middle of the pack GPA, and a part time PLATles, so you can take whatever I say with a grain of salt.
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I’m loathe to bin this as a millennial phenomenon, but that does come to mind. This is the first I’ve ever heard of it, and I’ve yet to hear any opposition expressed in my squadron or Airwing. Healthy competition is nearly always a good thing, even in the days of PLM. This is one tradition we ought not lose touch with.
As a non-hooker looking at my own community, I'd say we don't have enough friendly competition when it comes to stick skills. Some dudes can't even taxi on center line, let alone put the wheels in the boxes on the CVN (even after wobbling around at 20 ft for 2 minutes). Disgraceful.
If you like to call me a millennial at somewhere close to age 36, that’s fine, but I don’t think that is really the issue here
My squadron had a greenie board . . . just sayin’.
Haha true, classic millennial ball flyer
It’s always something. I remember when A-7 guys who insisted on using the magic of the HUD to get aboard were called “HUD cripples”...
I’m shocked to hear of the demise of the Greenie Board for you pointy nose types. As an ignorant helo dude I thought it was a pillar of tailhooking and FITREPS were more or less derived from the boards.
I’m shocked to hear of the demise of the Greenie Board for you pointy nose types. As an ignorant helo dude I thought it was a pillar of tailhooking and FITREPS were more or less derived from the boards.
No, it won’t. You can still get a cut pass with PLM.
The trouble with making something foolproof is that fools are such clever people.
As usual, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
There’s nothing foolproof about it. You still have to fly the airplane. You just do it in a different way.