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Navy Dedicated SAR Squadrons

FFS. I guess we hit delete on the ‘first OEF’ and OIF from our collective memory with people living in tents and CHUs and a volume of indirect fires that led us to modify a CIWS to shoot down that fire OR the length of the surge.

Maybe those things were filmed at the same sound stage at Vandenberg AFB where we faked the moon landing.
 
ChuckMK23 said:
Listen I know pilots love to complain. Plenty of hyperbole. Last weekend was a big drill weekend on both the Guard and Reserve side and I heard an earful. I don't pretend to understand all the context - but O-4's and O-5's walking and and quitting rather than deploying down range again is definitely a thing. Giving up a retirement grade. Also being deployed enough to cause strife with airline's mil leave policy. Or simply being burned out. And the danger at the multitude of exped air fields is also real. Crews sleeping in tents is real vs hotels is causing friction. Jets are being blown up in place in revetments via drones or hypersonic ordnance as well as the ongoing SAM threat. For Guard and Reserve folks I heard a lot of genuine "I did not sign up for this" - meaning - "call it a no shit war or send me home".
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@ChuckMK23 YHGTBFSM. If what you are intimating above is anywhere close to reality, our country is fooked. JFC - take a breath . . . .
 
Randy Daytona said:
The ranges in the Pacific are really going to challenge traditional rotary and even tilt-rotor assets.

I still hold to my opinion it will have to be some type of rescue drone and the downed aircrew will have to climb aboard themselves.
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Looks like we have seen one possibility for rescue in the future:

www.twz.com

This Is The Corsair Drone Boat That Plucked The Downed Apache Crew Out Of The Gulf Of Oman

The U.S. Navy's top drone task force in the Middle East only started operating the Corsair uncrewed surface vessels in March.
www.twz.com www.twz.com
 
ChuckMK23 said:
Listen I know pilots love to complain. Plenty of hyperbole. Last weekend was a big drill weekend on both the Guard and Reserve side and I heard an earful. I don't pretend to understand all the context - but O-4's and O-5's walking and and quitting rather than deploying down range again is definitely a thing. Giving up a retirement grade. Also being deployed enough to cause strife with airline's mil leave policy. Or simply being burned out. And the danger at the multitude of exped air fields is also real. Crews sleeping in tents is real vs hotels is causing friction. Jets are being blown up in place in revetments via drones or hypersonic ordnance as well as the ongoing SAM threat. For Guard and Reserve folks I heard a lot of genuine "I did not sign up for this" - meaning - "call it a no shit war or send me home".
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A point of order. This isn't a particular company's "policy". It is federal law, and protection under the USERRA act. Some minor league players might give pushback, but that would be at their very significant legal peril. The majors all know very well to not fuck with USERRA. I personally do my best to be a good steward and give ample warning when I'm going on mil leave (i.e. more than 24 hrs, and in practice generally at least 7 days) but there isn't anything they can do about it if you didn't. You get 5 total years, which is pro-rated significantly down to the credit/flight hours missed, in other words a 20 hour 3-day trip doesn't cost you 3 calendar days, it costs you 20 hrs against 5 yrs. Or in the case of a longer (>30 day) mil leave of absence, they will count each month as 75 hrs or whatever the airline-specific minimum monthly credit is set at......not 30 calendar days. Not to mention that there are war-use order types that are entirely exempt as well, meaning that the company has to let you go and it doesn't count against that 5 yrs. I know some orders that have been cut for this conflict, at least on the VAQ and VR sides, have been just those types/code. Not sure if the ANG is the same, but I imagine they are.
 
Griz882 said:
I have a feeling these gripes are more about airline job policies than “Iran is kicking our ass.”
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Bingo. This sounds like Reservists being Reservists. And airline Reservists are their own special kind of Reservist...just ask them.
 
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