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NAs who fly the SNFOs around

srqwho

srqwho

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I was in Pensacola a few weeks ago and saw a few NA IPs walking around from the SNFO VT squadrons. My only experience has been in the SNA VTs (Corpus/Kingsville). I was curious to see what type of flying the IPs do with the SNFOs in the trunk in the 45. Do the guys in the trunk get any stick time like I've heard in the primary squadrons (T-6)? Thanks.
 
When I was in VT-86 (the only NFO VT with T-45s) we did airnavs, low levels, section flights, BFM, and CAS flights in the T-45. From what I remember it was only (current guys correct me if I'm wrong) a 15 flight syllabus. There wasn't any official stick time, but I had a few IPs that let me fly some airnav legs. Pretty much the same as the T-6. The only time I had stick time in the T-6 was on my contact hops (a few flights in the Pensacola MOA), and on some airnavs.
 
cfam said:
When I was in VT-86 (the only NFO VT with T-45s) we did airnavs, low levels, section flights, BFM, and CAS flights in the T-45. From what I remember it was only (current guys correct me if I'm wrong) a 15 flight syllabus. There wasn't any official stick time, but I had a few IPs that let me fly some airnav legs. Pretty much the same as the T-6. The only time I had stick time in the T-6 was on my contact hops (a few flights in the Pensacola MOA), and on some airnavs.
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I finished up this summer, nothing has changed from that. I got some basic stick time on AirNavs, as well, but it was not required, and made up less than 1% of my T-45 flight time.
 
Sounds like a good gig from a Prowler guy I talked to at lunch one day. Live on the beach instead of Milton, fly a decent amount (incl out & ins), etc.
 
And only Prowler guys. The T-45 side of VT-86 is a VAQ union shop. The E-2 pilots I've known who tried to get in on the sweet T-45 action said they felt like the unwelcome stranger walking into a saloon in a western.

Semi-threadjack: Since VT-4 is gone, and all the AF studs, and the T-39 going, is -86 going to get a lot more T-45s, or is the squadron just going to get a lot smaller?
 
Uncle Fester said:
And only Prowler guys. The T-45 side of VT-86 is a VAQ union shop. The E-2 pilots I've known who tried to get in on the sweet T-45 action said they felt like the unwelcome stranger walking into a saloon in a western.

Semi-threadjack: Since VT-4 is gone, and all the AF studs, and the T-39 going, is -86 going to get a lot more T-45s, or is the squadron just going to get a lot smaller?
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What I heard on the way out was they're planning on getting a lot more Goshawks, the new ones with missionized aft cockpits and some sort of synthetic radar imagery run by a ground station. I'm not making this stuff up. Also talk of increasing the number of simulator events to make up for the loss of the Sabreliner.
 
Yeah, I was semi-familiar with the T-45 sortaradar and Grand Wing Six Risorgimento, just not sure how exactly they were carrying it out. All T-6 at VT-10, and all T-45 at VT-86? If the VP/VQ/VAW pipeline studs were going to fly T-45s at -86, it would require a lot more jets.
 
The plan is for VT-86 to get around 20 T-45's. They will focus on ejection seat NFO platforms (Sorry E-2/P-3/P-8 guys).

From what I understood of the revised UMFO program called VMTS is that PRI & INT flying would be T-6s and ADV flying would be upgraded T-45s with a butt ton of air-to-air and air-to-ground full motion & visual simulators.

-ea6bflyr ;)
 
Uncle Fester said:
And only Prowler guys. The T-45 side of VT-86 is a VAQ union shop. The E-2 pilots I've known who tried to get in on the sweet T-45 action said they felt like the unwelcome stranger walking into a saloon in a western.
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When I went through there were no E-2/C-2 guys because there was a lot more concentration on ACM, half the flights, but they did have plenty of VFA, VMFA, VMA and VF guys in addition to the Prowler guys. The IPs said they didn't have the planes or the time to bring up the E-2/C-2 guys up to speed on the ACM stuff like they did in Meridian and Krock where the had more jets and folks.
 
WSO buddy of mine told me about a time when he was in the RR in -86 on duty, some dude from VFA-umptyfrats called asking if they were hiring, hands off to the ODO, who puts him on hold while he asks. Whole room busts open with laughter and they make fun of the dude for a couple mins. ODO gets back on phone and says "sorry man, we are full right now"
 
RadicalDude said:
Also talk of increasing the number of simulator events to make up for the loss of the Sabreliner.
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There's a metric shittonne of crates in the sim building now and the construction is still going on the the front of the building. The Fidelity guys were telling me of them expanding and hiring more contractors to fill the new spots.
 
EM1(SW)NUKE said:
There's a metric shittonne of crates in the sim building now and the construction is still going on the the front of the building. The Fidelity guys were telling me of them expanding and hiring more contractors to fill the new spots.
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Is that a Growler in your avatar? I didn't think they had those in Oklahoma ;)
 
Um, yeah. I went to API with EM1...always talked about wanting to go to OK to be close to home.
 
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