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Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
pilot
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I’m not necessarily defending Sig, if the issue is real then it needs to be addressed and steps taken to ensure safety across the entire 320/18 enterprise. I simply don’t put my trust in a bunch of guys looking for YouTube clicks over an FBI report that came up as inconclusive BUT recommends keeping a watchful eye. I prefer actual solutions. If it is/was a quality control issue, Sig can track the line and inspectors and either kick them to the street or retrain them. If it is a mechanical issue then then figure it out…but the issue has to be easily replicated for that to be done.
 

sevenhelmet

Quaint ideas from yesteryear
pilot
I’m not necessarily defending Sig, if the issue is real then it needs to be addressed and steps taken to ensure safety across the entire 320/18 enterprise. I simply don’t put my trust in a bunch of guys looking for YouTube clicks over an FBI report that came up as inconclusive BUT recommends keeping a watchful eye. I prefer actual solutions. If it is/was a quality control issue, Sig can track the line and inspectors and either kick them to the street or retrain them. If it is a mechanical issue then then figure it out…but the issue has to be easily replicated for that to be done.

There is enough evidence now that I think this is real. Something is up with the design that makes it statistically different from other striker fired pistols. The question is will Sig continue to double down on their position?

I think calling out the questioners as “grifters” was a mistake, but I’m also not a business development guy, so what would I know?
 

BigRed389

Registered User
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There is enough evidence now that I think this is real. Something is up with the design that makes it statistically different from other striker fired pistols. The question is will Sig continue to double down on their position?

I think calling out the questioners as “grifters” was a mistake, but I’m also not a business development guy, so what would I know?
My bet - Sig will continue to double down until there is a change in leadership or until someone else’s investigation finally finds something conclusive that forces their hand.
 

ChuckMK23

5 bullets veteran!
pilot
My bet - Sig will continue to double down until there is a change in leadership or until someone else’s investigation finally finds something conclusive that forces their hand.
420,000 + M17/M18 pistols delivered to DoD. I would guess few are carried everyday with a round in the chamber. Yes? Might explain why the US military issues are relatively small, compared to duty LEO use.

At some point someone in Congress will want to make a name for themselves and champion the investigation or removal of these weapons from service.
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
pilot
Contributor
420,000 + M17/M18 pistols delivered to DoD. I would guess few are carried everyday with a round in the chamber. Yes? Might explain why the US military issues are relatively small, compared to duty LEO use.

At some point someone in Congress will want to make a name for themselves and champion the investigation or removal of these weapons from service.
I doubt they’d remove them, more likely just force a system wide repair.
 

BigRed389

Registered User
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420,000 + M17/M18 pistols delivered to DoD. I would guess few are carried everyday with a round in the chamber. Yes? Might explain why the US military issues are relatively small, compared to duty LEO use.

At some point someone in Congress will want to make a name for themselves and champion the investigation or removal of these weapons from service.
Forcewide?

Between all the base police on patrol, gate guards, pier sentries, and ship quarterdeck watches, all running 24/7, I’d actually guess probably comparable if not more.

Some of the LEO incidents probably would have been mitigated by having a manual safety (thinking cop who had her gun in a bag, no holster, or the poor holster fit issues). Probably another factor for less incidents in DOD use.

I doubt they’d remove them, more likely just force a system wide repair.

Thats if they can find a problem that can be easily replicated and fixed. That’s the problem plaguing the gun. It feels like a race between finding a problem Sig would actually rather NOT find and whether or not it’s a real and common enough issue that someone else gets shot.
 
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