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Moron Watch: Ensign Jailed for Terrorizing Civilians

ip568

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Junior officer charged with
harassing civilian family

By William H. McMichael
Times staff writer

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Navy Ensign Jason Michael Carley, left, and Barry Cogen, right — Broward County, Fla., Sheriff / U.S. Navy

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. — A Norfolk-based Navy ensign and another man are in custody on charges that they terrorized a Broward County, Fla., family over a three-year period.
Ensign Jason Michael Carley, 22, and Barry Cogen, 22, are accused of repeatedly throwing eggs, hundreds of magazines, concrete blocks, gasoline, fire/acid bombs, firecrackers and more at the Lau family residence near Oakland Park, an unincorporated area near Fort Lauderdale. The two men are accused of attacking the property 15 times between August 2002 and July 17, 2004, damaging two family cars and the residence in the process.

Detectives said the residence was occupied during all of the incidents.

Carley, assigned to the frigate Elrod, was arrested July 13 in Norfolk by Naval Criminal Investigative Service agents, according to Broward County Sheriff’s spokeswoman Liz Calzadilla-Fiallo. He is now being held without bond at the Broward Sheriff’s Office Main Jail on two counts of arson and two counts of manufacturing and projecting a destructive device. Cogan was arrested June 29 and released on one count of aggravated stalking. Additional charges are pending, Calzadilla-Fiallo said.

The Navy couldn’t be reached late today to determine Carley’s date of service and whether he was in the Navy during the time the crimes were said to be committed.

Both men had been under investigation since August 2002 for stalking, harassing and damaging the Lau family home, Calzadilla-Fiallo said. Detectives said the two had harassed the family’s son while attending a local middle school. Calzadilla-Fiallo said both men have said that they committed the acts “simply out of boredom.”
 

petescheu

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Anything the media can do to make the military look bad, I swear... do you ever hear news about the good things we do? No... that wouldn't get ratings or sell papers I guess, would it.
But yeah, I agree, that guy is a retard...
 

Schnugg

It's gettin' a bit dramatic 'round here...
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Seems it is something that carried over from their teen years...

You gotta grow up sometime and these two never did.
 

Cate

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shoo24, I think in this case it could be argued that the Ensign was the one making the military look bad. Unless this was front-page-above-the-fold, it's just another crime article.
 

The Chief

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Cate said:
shoo24, I think in this case it could be argued that the Ensign was the one making the military look bad. Unless this was front-page-above-the-fold, it's just another crime article.

No defending the Ensign nor his acts, however, careful reading of the article might reveal that the acts were committed prior to him being an Ensign.
 

Fred

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shoo24 said:
Anything the media can do to make the military look bad, I swear... do you ever hear news about the good things we do? No... that wouldn't get ratings or sell papers I guess, would it.
But yeah, I agree, that guy is a retard...


Seems the media tends to do that with military members. Notice they didn't say anything about Barry Cogan. Just called him another man. If a military member gets in an accident, etc., they mention the military link. Not true with civilians.
 

PaulMason81

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Fred said:
Seems the media tends to do that with military members. Notice they didn't say anything about Barry Cogan. Just called him another man. If a military member gets in an accident, etc., they mention the military link. Not true with civilians.


That isn't always bad...

The Ensign who has taken an oath to serve his country should be mentioned differently than some random Barry Cogan.

Don't quote me on this, but the Whiting Field Chaplain had a survey that showed different occupations. Military officers were considered by the public to be the most trustworthy people even over ministers or other generally trusted personnel.

That's an honor, and i would expect to be treated different if arrested for (teenage) criminal activity.

Don't get me wrong... ( I rarely agree with media coverage of military activities.. ha ha ) :)
 

Pags

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The Chief said:
No defending the Ensign nor his acts, however, careful reading of the article might reveal that the acts were committed prior to him being an Ensign.

agreed that the acts were probably done before becoming an Ensign, but this does not stop these acts from being those of an immature, irresponsible jackass. it's one thing to egg a house or light the bag of dog poop when you're 13, but when you're 20-21, well, it's time to grow up billy madison.
 

Steve Wilkins

Teaching pigs to dance, one pig at a time.
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We probably shouldn't be talking about this. Investigation is still ongoing....wait, that's another thread, nevermind.

Curious, but how many of you have the FULL story and/or have seen the evidence backing up these charges? That is what they are, right? Charges? Or has he been convicted yet? Just something to think about.
 

The Chief

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Thanks for the email, but as I said, I was not defending either suspect. I just said carefull reading should alert the reader to some red flags in the story.

Why did it take a full year to arrest him?

What is added to the newsworthyness of the story by saying he is an Ensign in the Navy? Why did the author said he could not determine if he was in the Navy at the time? Is that not very easy to verify?

What is an "acid bomb"? Was it in fact vinegar?

While we are all speculating, it does sound so familiar. The Lau attorney probably planted that story, know he can not defend himself, knowing that if he settled out of court it would be better than losing his career.

My real point is not to convict and punish him before he has had his day in court.
 

Steve Wilkins

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The Chief said:
Thanks for the email, but as I said, I was not defending either suspect. I just said carefull reading should alert the reader to some red flags in the story.
Email from me?
 

The Chief

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Steve Wilkins said:
Email from me?

Negative. Did not mean to imply, we just ended up in sequence, actually your post was not there when I started my much longer diatribe, which, upon reflection, I condensed.

It was just an email from an interested contributor.
 

squeeze

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The Chief said:
What is an "acid bomb"?

coke bottle + pool acid (muriatic/hydrochloric) + aluminum foil

cap it, the chemical reaction causes gas, which builds up till it blows apart.

...or so I've heard
 

Fly Navy

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Same thing with Drain-O and aluminum foil...

So I've heard.

Chief is right though, the media would call a vinegar bomb an acid bomb to make it sound more sinister.
 
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