You forgot the only one that is pretty much indisputable.....
The sea service deployment ribbon.
Is this statement a joke or not?
You forgot the only one that is pretty much indisputable.....
The sea service deployment ribbon.
You forgot the only one that is pretty much indisputable.....
The sea service deployment ribbon.
Is this statement a joke or not?
+1Not a joke (really).
The Sea Service Deployment ribbon is the only "personal" ribbon (not unit or gimme) that is indisputably earned.
It's not a big deal, but it's hard to debate whether you earned it or not.
I'm more impressed by a guy with a NAM and 5 SSDR's than a guy with 5 NCMs and 2 MSMs and zero or one SSDRs.
One guy has actually been somewhere. The other guy is possibly an asskisser or an admin pouge.
Make sense?
Not a joke (really).
The Sea Service Deployment ribbon is the only "personal" ribbon (not unit or gimme) that is indisputably earned.
It's not a big deal, but it's hard to debate whether you earned it or not.
I'm more impressed by a guy with a NAM and 5 SSDR's than a guy with 5 NCMs and 2 MSMs and zero or one SSDRs.
One guy has actually been somewhere. The other guy is possibly an asskisser or an admin pouge.
Make sense?
I'm more impressed by a guy with a NAM and 5 SSDR's than a guy with 5 NCMs and 2 MSMs and zero or one SSDRs.
One guy has actually been somewhere. The other guy is possibly an asskisser or an admin pouge.
Make sense?
No it doesn't!
I have 5 NMCMs, 2 NMAMs and NO SSDRs (whatever that is, didn't have them back in the day!) Using your criteria, I am considered asskisser, admin pogue, never been anywhere etc., at first look? Ahem, one size (look} does not fit all! :blindfold
Another example: During Vietnam, the USAF authorized a combat "V" for DFCs awarded when mission was opposed (AAA/SAMs, etc), the USN did not authorize "V"s on DFCs or AMs. So just visually comparing ribbon racks without knowing the real slory...would indicate that the USAF DFCs/AMs were much more significant than the USN awards, NO? I rest my case, one look does not always tell the whole story! BTW, since Vietnam, the USN does now authorize the "V" for DFCs, but did not make it retroactive. Another screwing of 'nam "DownTown" Warriors! I'm not upset, just wanna set the record straight. As someone previously mentioned, awards can become a very contentious issue, and I (we) probably shouldn't spend too much time there? :icon_king
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Not a joke (really).
The Sea Service Deployment ribbon is the only "personal" ribbon (not unit or gimme) that is indisputably earned.
It's not a big deal, but it's hard to debate whether you earned it or not.
I'm more impressed by a guy with a NAM and 5 SSDR's than a guy with 5 NCMs and 2 MSMs and zero or one SSDRs.
One guy has actually been somewhere. The other guy is possibly an asskisser or an admin pouge.
Make sense?
I'm not sure how long the Sea Service Deployment Ribbon has been around, but you would clearly rate at least one, and I suspect several.
You get one for every OCONUS deployment in excess of 90 days. If you don't have one (today's standard) then you've never been anywhere. Therefore whatever other medals you have couldn't really be that impressive.
Medals that matter: Silver Star, Navy Cross, and Medal of Honor.
Everything else is just chest chaff.
The all knowing wikipedia says this: "The Sea Service Deployment Ribbon is a decoration of the United States Navy which was established in May 1980 and retroactively authorized to August 1974."
Not a joke (really).
The Sea Service Deployment ribbon is the only "personal" ribbon (not unit or gimme) that is indisputably earned.
It's not a big deal, but it's hard to debate whether you earned it or not.
I'm more impressed by a guy with a NAM and 5 SSDR's than a guy with 5 NCMs and 2 MSMs and zero or one SSDRs.
One guy has actually been somewhere. The other guy is possibly an asskisser, or an admin pouge.
Make sense?
Pretty bold statement for someone still pretty fresh in their career.
Everyone I know who has gotten a Bronze Star, Air Medal or a Commendation medal with a V has earned it the hard way. Same with those I know personally with the DFC though I know 'of' some that may have gotten them easier than others. For non-combat actions the two I know personally who earned the Navy and Marine Corps Medal and both were more than deserved, giant brass balls on both.
Long story short you shouldn't dismiss chest candy as 'chaff' until you know the story behind it. Sure, it is pretty easy to dismiss a rack full of Navy Coms and NAMs and even a few Bronze Stars without a V on an Army guy but just be careful about blanket statements like that.
For officers checking out of their sea tour (since the desert mission ended) the "TACAMO stack" is a NAM, Battle E, Nat'l Defense, GWOTS, and the marksmanship awards. We don't ride on boats, but at last count I was gone close to 8 months of the last year. I'd like that think that I'm not an "asskisser, or an admin pouge."