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Marine 2ndLt dies during API water survival

EM1toNFO

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It was pretty quiet here last week. I believe that the funeral is tomorrow. Rest in Peace brother.
 

phrogdriver

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Maybe it's too soon to say it, but there is an OIC and dive staff having some extremely bad days right now. I hope everything was being done the right way, for their sakes, and that no symbolic crucifixions will occur unless there was genuine malfeasance.

I can only imagine what control measures will be put in place. Hopefully they won't dilute the value of water survival training, which has saved dozens of lives, if not more.
 

Harrier Dude

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I was there during one of the unfortunate deaths in the late '80s. It was purely a physiological failure for the candidate that died. No manner of extra special ORM measures would have stopped it. We'll see what comes out here.
 

jtmedli

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My guess is simple hypetropic cardiomyopathy - symptoms are very easy to miss during any physical. It's genetic but also develops in people who are extremely athletic, the heart works so hard that as it grows stronger, some of the walls grow thicker, which can lead to severe problems(cardiac arrest). A guy from my OCS class ran 1.5 in about 7 minutes...a few days later he was sent to student pool for suspicion of hypertropic cardiomyopathy. After weeks of tests in Boston at Tufts and other specialists he was permanently DQ'd for all duty because he could literally drop dead during exertional activities.

I think they check for this pretty commonly now. I had to go with 3 other guys to have a Echo Cardio-Gram (?) done at some specialist to make sure I didn't have it. Wasn't the first I had heard of people being double checked for that sort of thing before they'd clear their flight physicals.
 

bunk22

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That's a tough one. I went to water survival last August, a year ago, and the swim phys guys were top notch professionals. It's hard when someone dies on your watch. RIP Marine.
 

Moc1Sig

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That's a tough one. I went to water survival last August, a year ago, and the swim phys guys were top notch professionals. It's hard when someone dies on your watch. RIP Marine.
Exactly my thought, excellent staff. RIP Marine, many studs in Texas are remembering you as well.
 

Sapper!

Excuse the BS...
this is terrible stuff....
you always hear about these strange things happening in youth sports and high school level stuff, big thing these days is having the AEDs close by. They seem to really help out, but doesn't always work. I'll bet anything they had one and tried it in this case. Definitely a sad event, rest in peace brother.
 

villanelle

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I just read that his kidney went to save the life of another Marine. What a beautiful legacy that is.
 

eas7888

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It really hit home for a lot of the Marines here in API. From what we API A/B/C-pool were told by the NASC CO, the staff at the pool did their job just as they were supposed to. I don't know if this article mentions it, but from what we were told, the incident occurred during the tread and float remediation, so there was a lot of individual attention and a quick reaction to the problem.
 

wlawr005

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Maybe it's too soon to say it, but there is an OIC and dive staff having some extremely bad days right now. I hope everything was being done the right way, for their sakes, and that no symbolic crucifixions will occur unless there was genuine malfeasance.

I can only imagine what control measures will be put in place. Hopefully they won't dilute the value of water survival training, which has saved dozens of lives, if not more.
CO made it clear to everyone at NASC that the training and EAP were conducted quickly, precisely, and to the letter. Response was immediate, and next level emergency care arrived ASAP. OIC gave our class the pool indoc brief yesterday and also mentioned the professionalism of his staff and the quick response.

COC was very quick to gauge the pulse of the command here, have a safety stand down, and make sure that everyone understood that the training was not at fault. It doesn't appear that anyone believes any of the staff members are at fault. Great job to those guys at the pool for doing what they were trained to do.
 

bunk22

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I'll say it again, the swim phys staff last year was some of the best I've seen and experienced in my 18 years. I feel horrible for the family but also for those guys. They no doubt did everything they could, very sad.
 
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