Yep. Had to use one for gas in Conception Chile in 1991 when our C-2A COD landed there for Pax Ops….they would not take the charge card.
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Maintenance at a civil airport?
- Thread starter skybert
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On my Trans-Pac back to the US for my 2021 deployment our chase C-17 got delayed for a major downing discrepancy after the jets had already departed from Misawa for Guam. We ended up keeping our CORONET schedule and made it to Hawaii before our 72 hour "dailies" dropped dead. In order to not lose our tankers and get stranded in Hawaii we had to send a maintenance team from our ADVON personnel in Whidbey, out to Hawaii, to do an overnight turnaround on 5x Growlers so we could make the last leg of our CORONET from Hawaii to Whidbey.
Thank goodness nothing broke on the way because the chase C-17 didn't end up arriving in Whidbey until almost an entire week after it was initially scheduled to go with us.
Thank goodness nothing broke on the way because the chase C-17 didn't end up arriving in Whidbey until almost an entire week after it was initially scheduled to go with us.
Same for USN. I just cannot imagine a circumstance where that would be preferable to a rescue det, much less feasible for the reasons stated in this thread.
When the RAN were deployed to Jax, they did a det to AUTEC and stopped at KPBI to get gas, as was normal for all the USN squadrons. Because the aircraft were RAN property, all they had were NAVAIR Identiplates (for fueling at USN bases) but no AIRCARD and no one thought about how they were going to get fuel. At the end of the day, someone from NAVAIR provided the FBO a Cadillac Chit and the helos went on their way.
Fast forward several months and the FBO still was waiting for NAVAIR to pay them because, in standard NAVAIR fashion, they were slow-rolling the process. They finally paid, but now the Navy was short on 800 gallons of gas worth of money. I think it was finally settled shortly before I retired (3+ years later) that the USN would just be "paid-in-kind" by AUS the next time a US ship pulled in to Australia. Who knows if that ever actually got nulled out.
Fast forward several months and the FBO still was waiting for NAVAIR to pay them because, in standard NAVAIR fashion, they were slow-rolling the process. They finally paid, but now the Navy was short on 800 gallons of gas worth of money. I think it was finally settled shortly before I retired (3+ years later) that the USN would just be "paid-in-kind" by AUS the next time a US ship pulled in to Australia. Who knows if that ever actually got nulled out.
Bonus points if they have to make the trip because your primary stud decides to unload the airplane and knock a few years of FOD loose as you're on the way to KEYW.
('leave the gun, take the cannoli')
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What type of aircraft, and what timeframe are you referring to?
hlg6016
A/C Wings Here
I was flight crew on KC 130's Huggy
Ah. Makes sense.
My understanding is that on larger USAF aircraft, like the C-17, KC-135, etc... they often travel with flying crew chiefs that are part of the crew AND do various amounts of maintenance. Especially if they are, for example, an Osprey or C-5 crew in Africa. So yes... I stand corrected.
My comment was aimed at the aircraft that have only pilots and navs onboard, and no enlisted guys smart on bending a wrench on the aircraft.
Thanks for the clarification, Hig6016.
hlg6016
A/C Wings Here
No problem, We made it a team effort if we had maintenance issues. But I never heard of any pilots or navs on tactical A/C expected to fix their own gripes
skybert
Skybert
That’s the one I was talking about
I mean, that J3 will teach that primary stud (and probably the IP) a lot more about stick and rudder flying that the T-6 could ever wish to.