Had a couple people involved in a spice ring in my first squadron. That was a nightmare.
They call it the zombie drug for a reason.Had a couple people involved in a spice ring in my first squadron. That was a nightmare.
My personal favorite were the two guys who did so much coke on a CQ det, they started acting all loopy, tried to run away from the MAs coming back to the ship, and got thrown in the brig. Which involves a mandatory whiz quiz. That’s how I learned there was a code on the drug screening report that basically says “we can’t tell you exactly how much coke this person did, but it’s more than the system is designed to measure.” They no-shit pegged the meter.Had a couple people involved in a spice ring in my first squadron. That was a nightmare.
My personal favorite were the two guys who did so much coke on a CA det, they started acting all loopy, tried to run away from the MAs coming back to the ship, and got thrown in the brig. Which involves a mandatory whiz quiz. That’s how I learned there was a code on the drug screening report that basically says “we can’t tell you exactly how much coke this person did, but it’s more than the system is designed to measure.” They no-shit pegged the meter.
Best part about that was having just turned over Legal O at the time, and being able to be like “ha ha, fucker. It’s your problem now!”![]()
Yeah, the lab reps made that pretty clear at Legal O Skool. Secondhand anything doesn't give you enough in your system to pop on the test. They test every sample three times, and if it passes any one of those with a quantity you didn't deliberately put there, it's a pass. You pop, you did it, you're screwed, unless the chain of custody can be challenged.I was at mast (as part of the COC) my guy popped for MJ, at mast claimed it was "second hand", legal officer handed the CO a copy of the drug test, CO said wow then asked the kid if he wanted to change his answer or stick with it, kid admitted to smoking, found guilty 45/45 1/2 x 2
Yeah, the lab reps made that pretty clear at Legal O Skool. Secondhand anything doesn't give you enough in your system to pop on the test. They test every sample three times, and if it passes any one of those with a quantity you didn't deliberately put there, it's a pass. You pop, you did it, you're screwed, unless the chain of custody can be challenged.
I remember the Legal O school story of the girl claiming her non-Navy BF was doing drugs...and she ingested it.. use your imagination on how she participated in the intake his bodily fluids. She claimed second hand as well....lost, but with a golf clap.
I had just shown up at my CVW-5 squadron, first day underway 0430 CMC and I get the call to the Skippers stateroom. Two guys popped. Within a week I was working with NCIS back on the beach uncovering a hidden drug ring with a group outside the gate. Wired up our trooper to get the tape. We still kicked him out, I believe with a OTO vice a BCD. Lot of stuff like that happens, doesn't break squelch so folks don't know about it.
I F-ing hated that job, luckily I had an outstanding YNC that knew his way around. My first lesson on how a Chief can really save a stupid JO's bacon.
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Unless this has happened twice, I worked with her. She was an IT3 or IT2 on my first ship. We had a command-wide sweep on the first Jan '03 work day after the New Year's break (surprise, surprise). We lost 4 ITs and 2 ETs who had all attended the same NYE party.I remember the Legal O school story of the girl claiming her non-Navy BF was doing drugs...and she ingested it.. use your imagination on how she participated in the intake his bodily fluids. She claimed second hand as well....lost, but with a golf clap.
Unless this has happened twice, I worked with her. She was an IT3 or IT2 on my first ship. We had a command-wide sweep on the first Jan '03 work day after the New Year's break (surprise, surprise). We lost 4 ITs and 2 ETs who had all attended the same NYE party.
The funny part is we got underway before the mast, so the ARG's ISIC ran it, and I believe she was standing in front of a 1-star telling her ridiculous story.
Upside is I got a sweet new rack out of my shipmate's separation.
There must some shitty website that gives people legal advice for Navy drug issues, like the ones out there for fighting speeding tickets.Highly unlikely same person. I went to legal O school in ‘96.
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There must some shitty website that gives people legal advice for Navy drug issues, like the ones out there for fighting speeding tickets.
There must some shitty website that gives people legal advice for Navy drug issues, like the ones out there for fighting speeding tickets.