Low Price Supplements

[xnvyflyer]

I know most of you guys work out, whether it's resistance training, cardio or both. I am always keeping a look out for the cheapest vitamins, protein powders etc.

I just ordered from www.vitacost.com. This was the lowest I have ever seen. If anybody knows of a place to get cheaper supps please let me know but I thought this was pretty darn good.

Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with this company nor do I know anybody that is.

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[scoober78]

www.bodybuilding.com

Usually very competitive, especially for things like Whey etc...

Also, just as a reminder for the newer folks...
http://www.nomi.med.navy.mil/NAMI/WaiverGuideTopics/pdfs/Waiver Guide - Supplements.pdf

 

[xnvyflyer]

www.bodybuilding.com

Usually very competitive, especially for things like Whey etc...

Also, just as a reminder for the newer folks...
http://www.nomi.med.navy.mil/NAMI/WaiverGuideTopics/pdfs/Waiver Guide - Supplements.pdf

Keep shopping scoober. That sight is no deal. They really aren't. I do like the site for their articles but the store is waaay overpriced IMHO.

Compare with the site I mentioned and see for yourself. I bet bodybuilding.com can't beat them on one item.

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[Praying4OCS]

www.SupplementWarehouse.com

This site will beat any other sites price by 5%. When I am buying supplements or vitamins, I google the lowest price, then go here and beat it by 5%.

 

[scoober78]

Keep shopping scoober. That sight is no deal. They really aren't. I do like the site for their articles but the store is waaay overpriced IMHO.

Compare with the site I mentioned and see for yourself. I bet bodybuilding.com can't beat them on one item.

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Wow, they really are cheaper. Belay my last. Good find, thanks for the steer. Live and learn I guess.

Funny thing is, a buddy did the same thing to me with Bodybuilding.com about two years ago...
Thanks.

 

[Herc_Dude]

What kind of things do you guys take? (If you dont mind sharing) Positive results? I never got into supplements beyond vitamins ... and red meat, of course

 

[Nose]

I stick with the cream and the clear, they've always worked for me.

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[schwarti]

I thought that was flaxseed oil...

 

[BackOrdered]

What kind of things do you guys take? (If you dont mind sharing) Positive results? I never got into supplements beyond vitamins ... and red meat, of course

Disclaimer: I'm NOT a medical professional or a source of nutritional authority.

Since we are on the topic of supplements I'll share some experiences.

Stay away from Creatine Monohydrate. Sure the lean muscle growth and extra 20 pushups on top of what you can already do is cool at first, ok, it's fantastic at first, but that stuff builds extra weight over time and has no benefits to endurance. In fact, it slows you down. Also, once you stop, the muscles fade away. You'll only retain whatever mental endurance you've built. Also although these things never really bothered me, the long term effects on your body have yet to be studied.

Also, apparently Creatine is a banned Supplement for aviation. This link goes into it in great detail

http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17882

As far as multi-vitamins go, good old Once-a-day Active covers all the bases especially B (B is awesome) to give you your daily vitamins and energy.

Lastly, TUMs. Sounds odd but it is a great source of calcium for runners trying to strengthen their lower legs and prevents shin splints and stress fractures. Plus, it is extremely cheap.

And with all things, consult your Physician and Pharmacist before beginning any vitamin regiment.

 

[Herc_Dude]

Disclaimer: I'm NOT a medical professional or a source of nutritional authority.
And with all things, consult your Physician and Pharmacist before beginning any vitamin regiment.

Thanks for the info ... and legal-eeze. Not that I would have mistaken you for a medical professional ...

 

[BackOrdered]

Thanks for the info ... and legal-eeze. Not that I would have mistaken you for a medical professional ...

That wasn't specifically meant for you at all. I just don't want to see a reply a week later about someone contracting Super IBS after following tiz84's nutritional advice. There exists always that guy.

 

[HueyCobra8151]

Stay away from Creatine Monohydrate. Sure the lean muscle growth and extra 20 pushups on top of what you can already do is cool at first, ok, it's fantastic at first, but that stuff builds extra weight over time and has no benefits to endurance. In fact, it slows you down.

Is this anecdotal evidence? If not I would like to see where you got it. Everything I have read says that creatine actually increases your aerobic capacity and the oxidative capacity of cardiac muscle.

The 20 lbs of muscle you put on might slow you down, but not the creatine. (BTW, I ran the Eugene Marathon last year while supplementing with creatine)

Also, once you stop, the muscles fade away. You'll only retain whatever mental endurance you've built.

Your muscles won't absorb water and will shrink when you discontinue creatine, but all the muscle you built while being able to exercise for longer at a greater intensity will remain...

Also although these things never really bothered me, the long term effects on your body have yet to be studied.

Several studies have indicated that the only possible adverse effect are increased levels of creatinine being more difficult for impaired kidneys to process.

/Not a doctor either

 

[BackOrdered]

Is this anecdotal evidence? If not I would like to see where you got it. Everything I have read says that creatine actually increases your aerobic capacity and the oxidative capacity of cardiac muscle.

Personal experience and my own research.

Nearly every scientific study agrees that creatine loading does not improve your performance in endurance events. That stands to reason since you do not use creatine to produce energy during endurance events or distance running. So why do I think that creatine supplementation helps distance runners? The scientific studies do a good job of looking at the direct influence of creatine supplementation on distance runners. They say it does not help and they are correct. If you creatine load before a distance race you will not perform better. In fact, you may perform worse because loading with standard creatine monohydrate tends to cause you to gain weight due to water retention. The extra weight will slow you down. So what the heck am I talking about? If it slows you down how can it help your performance? The answer isn’t in the direct effect of creatine supplementation, it is the indirect effect.

http://www.runningplanet.com/training/creatine-supplementation-distance-running.html

The bottom link also states that "Creatine supplementation does not appear to increase endurance performance and may impair it by contributing to weight gain." If you don't mind the extra weight then it isn't an issue if you are a body builder. I gained about 5+ pounds of weight I didn't care to have and on the run it was just more baggage. I'd much rather be as lean as possible without the bulk up. It boiled down to do I want the extra mass and if so do I want to carry it on the run. That's where I was coming from.

Your muscles won't absorb water and will shrink when you discontinue creatine, but all the muscle you built while being able to exercise for longer at a greater intensity will remain...

You will not lose muscle by discontinuing creatine supplementation, however, you will experience a decrease in strength. - http://www.qfac.com/creatine.html

You got me there to some degree. However you will have to stop taking it before say OCS. You'll have the muscle but will you be able to take the strength drop once you detox?

Several studies have indicated that the only possible adverse effect are increased levels of creatinine being more difficult for impaired kidneys to process.

There was one such case where an otherwise healthy user contracted kidney disease. It was a rare case, but it's something anyone thinking of taking should know.

Some reports showed that kidney, liver, and blood functions were not affected by short-term higher amounts or long-term lower amounts of creatine supplementation in healthy young adults. In a small study of people taking 5–30 grams per day, no change in kidney function appeared after up to five years of supplementation. However, interstitial nephritis, a serious kidney condition, developed in an otherwise healthy young man, supplementing with 20 grams of creatine per day. - http://www.puritan.com/vf/healthnotes/hn_live/Supp/Creatine_Monohydrate.htm

That link is where I did the bulk of my outside research on it.

Also I added a link in my first post on this subject. Good stuff. I feel that for all the benefits there are just too many inconsistent studies and from the way I felt after using it, I just don't feel a need to continue using it, especially for endurance improvement. That's just my experience with it.

This is all good stuff in this topic and hopefully educational to someone thinking of trying the supplement.

 

[scoober78]

Personal experience and my own research.



http://www.runningplanet.com/training/creatine-supplementation-distance-running.html

The bottom link also states that "Creatine supplementation does not appear to increase endurance performance and may impair it by contributing to weight gain." If you don't mind the extra weight then it isn't an issue if you are a body builder. I gained about 5+ pounds of weight I didn't care to have and on the run it was just more baggage. I'd much rather be as lean as possible without the bulk up. It boiled down to do I want the extra mass and if so do I want to carry it on the run. That's where I was coming from.



You will not lose muscle by discontinuing creatine supplementation, however, you will experience a decrease in strength. - http://www.qfac.com/creatine.html

You got me there to some degree. However you will have to stop taking it before say OCS. You'll have the muscle but will you be able to take the strength drop once you detox?



There was one such case where an otherwise healthy user contracted kidney disease. It was a rare case, but it's something anyone thinking of taking should know.

Some reports showed that kidney, liver, and blood functions were not affected by short-term higher amounts or long-term lower amounts of creatine supplementation in healthy young adults. In a small study of people taking 5–30 grams per day, no change in kidney function appeared after up to five years of supplementation. However, interstitial nephritis, a serious kidney condition, developed in an otherwise healthy young man, supplementing with 20 grams of creatine per day. - http://www.puritan.com/vf/healthnotes/hn_live/Supp/Creatine_Monohydrate.htm

That link is where I did the bulk of my outside research on it.

Also I added a link in my first post on this subject. Good stuff. I feel that for all the benefits there are just too many inconsistent studies and from the way I felt after using it, I just don't feel a need to continue using it, especially for endurance improvement. That's just my experience with it.

This is all good stuff in this topic and hopefully educational to someone thinking of trying the supplement.

This debate is all well and good...but since anyone with an up chit can't take creatine...not especially useful here on Airwarriors eh?

 

[BackOrdered]

Ops! Nevermind scoober78. I was thinking of someone else for a sec.