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Looks like those GTA skills pay off

MasterHaynes86

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i like the last comment about picking his nose without a care in the world (i cleaned the language up)
The pedestrians dont run like those in GTA tho...
 

Brett327

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Effective and probably necessary.......but not the best way to win over the people........:eek:

My thoughts exactly. The whole concept of "hearts & minds" seems fatally flawed - a lesson which we, unfortunately, can't seem to learn. I'm reading an account of the British experience during the American Revolution and it reads just like our experience in Iraq or Vietnam WRT vastly overinflated expectations of the support the public would give. The Red Coats thought they would be greeted as liberators too.

War is for killing - little else matters.

Brett
 

skidkid

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Why did they post this on the internet? A necessary tactic-yes. Necessary to give it worldwide attention opening you up for further condemnation-no. Think before you put something on the internet, it's not just about some junior Marine or Soldier and his "cool" Iraq video; there is a BIGGGER PICTURE!
 

schwarti

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The comments on youtube are comedy gold. I like the guy who is claiming that we're losing the war "just like most other wars US has fought in". Yeah, we've definitely been on the losing side for most of the conflicts we've been in... moron. :confused:
 

Brett327

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The comments on youtube are comedy gold. I like the guy who is claiming that we're losing the war "just like most other wars US has fought in". Yeah, we've definitely been on the losing side for most of the conflicts we've been in... moron. :confused:

To be frank, our last decisive victory was WWII.

Brett
 

schwarti

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To be frank, our last decisive victory was WWII.

Brett

True, but I'd still say most of our conflicts since 1776 have turned out fairly well for us. Regardless, I don't think the guy's point was to spark a well-informed debate about the post-war state of the American military. I think he was just being a troll. :D
 

Brett327

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True, but I'd still say most of our conflicts since 1776 have turned out fairly well for us. Regardless, I don't think the guy's point was to spark a well-informed debate about the post-war state of the American military. I think he was just being a troll. :D

Yes, but sometimes we Americans have an unrealistic view of our own history of warfare. Even in our own revolution, the only reason we emerged victorious was because the Brits essentially decided to cut and run, not because of a decisive military victory. In WWI, we came in as a clean-up crew and the same could be said (although to a lesser extent) of the European theater in WWII. Overconfidence and a failure or unwillingness to see things (and ourselves) in the proper historical context is a very dangerous thing.

Brett
 

schwarti

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Very good point. You've got me thinking about this... might have to go and add to the book collection. :D
 

kmac

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Yes, but sometimes we Americans have an unrealistic view of our own history of warfare. Even in our own revolution, the only reason we emerged victorious was because the Brits essentially decided to cut and run, not because of a decisive military victory. In WWI, we came in as a clean-up crew and the same could be said (although to a lesser extent) of the European theater in WWII. Overconfidence and a failure or unwillingness to see things (and ourselves) in the proper historical context is a very dangerous thing.

Brett

Don't Tread on Me: A 400 Year History of America at War by H.W. Crocker III

It's a pretty fun read and really puts a lot in perspective. Anyway, I would argue that Washington knew that time was on his side, and his tactics illustrated that (refraining from major engagements). Additionally, Greene knew that in the south and succeeded in stringing Cornwallis out (and away from his supply lines). In any case, the battles were small and time only hurt the British. On your last comment, I would add that failing to remember/realize our policies before major events and the eventual outcome (1812, Barbary pirates, Mexican-American, WWI, WWII, etc.) in the context of those policies would be in error.
 

Brett327

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Don't Tread on Me: A 400 Year History of America at War by H.W. Crocker III

It's a pretty fun read and really puts a lot in perspective. Anyway, I would argue that Washington knew that time was on his side, and his tactics illustrated that (refraining from major engagements). Additionally, Greene knew that in the south and succeeded in stringing Cornwallis out (and away from his supply lines). In any case, the battles were small and time only hurt the British. On your last comment, I would add that failing to remember/realize our policies before major events and the eventual outcome (1812, Barbary pirates, Mexican-American, WWI, WWII, etc.) in the context of those policies would be in error.

Well said. Washington's strength, although he arguably had no alternative, was to assume a protracted, defensive strategy - never presenting the Brits with an opportunity for a decisive battle.

Brett
 
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