Lawmaker again launches Navy renaming bid

[HAL Pilot]

Next he'll want to make it the Navy and Marine Corps Cross......

 

[PropAddict]

Ahem. . .he said "Harrier Dude Amendment". . .

 

[BusyBee604]

Besides, "Department of the Navy and Marine C0rps" is such a mouthful.

A question arises... does the Commandant USMC report to SECNAV, or directly to SECDEF?
BzB

 

[Harrier Dude]

SECNAV, just like the CNO.

 

[Flash]

The article says: “When a young Marine dies, the family receives a letter from the Secretary of the Navy with the Navy flag,” [REP Walter] Jones [R-N.C.] said. “The Marine Corps has earned the right to be seen as an equal in name, and that’s what this is all about.”

I wanna know more about that NAVY flag that gets presented. Doesn't the family get that red, white and blue thingie with the stripes and stuff?

Would the family's grief and loss be somehow mitigated by different letterhead stationery?

I think he is refering to the flag of the Secretary of the Navy which I assume at the top of the the formal letters that he mails:

The Under Secretary of the Navy has his own flag as well, slightly more 'Marine-like' I suppose:

 

[Renegade One]

I think he is refering to the flag of the Secretary of the Navy which I assume at the top of the the formal letters that he mails:

You may be right. I thought it was a reference to a "folded flag" presented. Your version makes more sense.

 

[Homer J]

Shouldn't Congress being doing more important stuff like stopping the entire DoD from being shut down on march 1st?

I'm sure they'll look into it when they get back from vacation.

 

[Fog]

The Navy & Marine Corps have been "joined at the hip" since they were born. IMHO, either one - without the other - would be considerably hollowed out as a service. Conservely. their total [together] is much greater than the sum of their separate parts. What's more, can anyone imagine what a "Marine Nurse" would look like?? I shudder to think. Why screw w/ what ain't broke?

 

[Renegade One]

A question arises... does the Commandant USMC report to SECNAV, or directly to SECDEF?
BzB

SECNAV, just like the CNO.

Might a better answer be "It depends"?

Administratively (policy, budget, yadda yadda yadda)...I think Harrier Dude is absolutely correct. I think there may be operational matters where there's a different dotted line…with CJCS in there somewhere…maybe he writes the FITREP (assuming that admin qweep isn't waived at that level…)?

There are probably mornings when both the CNO and the CMC wonder 'Who the fuck DO I work for?" Hopefully after a three mile run and their morning cup of coffee, they both pull their pants on thinking: "Oh, yeah…the American People, and the Sailors/Marines who trust me to do right/best by them."

I'm sure it's complicated...

 

[Harrier Dude]

The Commandant and the CNO have very little to do with operational stuff, but you are right that it's slightly more complicated than what I wrote.

 

[phrogpilot73]

...maybe he writes the FITREP...

Which begs the question, would a service chief rate a P? He can't really go any higher... Or is he still competing for the #1 EP?

 

[Steve Wilkins]

So, would the CNO be renamed to the CNMCO?

 

[SkywardET]

So, would the CNO be renamed to the CNMCO?

Probably not, but SECNAV would have to become SECNAVMC.

 

[Fog]

SECMcNav would be easier to say . . . just sayin'

 

[Renegade One]

So, would the CNO be renamed to the CNMCO?

Since the post of CNO only dates to 1915, while there have been Commandants of the Marine Corps since the late 1700s, maybe the CMC would become CN&MC...

Oh, the humanity!