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Just took it! Wohoo!!!

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DairyCreamer

DairyCreamer

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Alrighty... what can I say other than reiterate the fact that you should study the Gouges on this site like none other. Only gripe I have is the spatial apperception (as previously mentioned) is different on this one than the site or ARCO books. Although, ARCO is still good practice, for sure... I wouldn't have gotten 34/35 on the SAT portion without having looked at that (I went out and got the latest ARCO Military Flight Aptitude Tests if only to have a full spread of orientations to practice with).

Anyway, I ended up with a 9 for my Pilot FAR, 8 for my NFO, and a 58 OAR, and an 8 AQR
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. My recruiting officer said that those scores should help me put in a strong package for Pilot, in spite of my rather poor GPA.

I'm tryin to remember some things that may have been sticky. I missed a few more on the MVT and MCT than I thought I would. Know your electrical stuff a little more than is emphasized in the gouges here and the books.

Anyway, I'm rather pleased, it really isn't any more difficult than the problems that are presented in the gouges here. Just make sure you try to practice under honest time constraints as they would be in the exam.

Final thing... afterword when talking to the recruiting officer, I asked to look at current slot availability. FY '04 is right out, they already have 220 out of 208 flight slots taken (yes, that's right, overfilled). NFOs are still needed for '04 though. FY '05, on the other hand, is looking mighty fine for pilots as of yet, with only 18 of 180 odd slots having been filled yet (with luck, that will be +1 in the next few months
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). He said there are NO surface warfare slots open (filled by the Naval Academy consistently), and while subs are ok, you have to do the nuclear program, which required a better GPA (in my case
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~Nate

PS - I took Form 1, 1992 Edition at the NRD Denver office.
 
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RobNLa

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dairy,
Just curious as to what your degree major and gpa were? I just submitted my package as well for pilot, and I am want to know with whom I am competing.
 
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RobNLa

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Dairy is right on about the electrical. It is under emphasized in the ARCO book. Also, the spacial is slightly different, and it can throw you off if you are not prepared.
 
DairyCreamer

DairyCreamer

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I am persuing a BS in Chemical Engineering with a minor in Atmospheric and Oceanic Science. Unfortunately, my GPA is presently slightly below a 2.5. Engineering has been unkind to me, but... BUT, I have been improving over the last couple of years, and I have 3 more semesters before I graduate. So, definitely time to pull my action up at least a marginal amount.

The recruitment officer said if I had a 3.0 GPA with my test scores, I'd be all but a lock for pilot. My GPA is about the only thing hurting me at this stage, so, he's going to work with me to create a tasty package for the selection board to snack on sometime in the future. He said had I gotten anything less than what I got, he would have probably steered me toward another program. Luckily I did well, so, he said definitely put pilot as my first choice if I want it.

Yay!
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~Nate
 
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chazmurr

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Nate,

Are you applying for BDCP? Did your recruiter tell you they opened up the pilot applications again. I applied in April, was declined, and was told I might have to wait until the end of the year until I can apply again. Basically, I was told that they were not even looking at applications for pilot right now. If you heard different, then I need to get my application together again and resubmit. Any one else hear this news or any other change in the acceptance of pilot applications again?

I will contact my recruiter again to see what the news is!

Thanks,
Nick
 
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Laerg

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I too just took the ASTB today. Thank you all for the gouge i have recieved here, as i rocked its world. My OSO didnt give me my prelim results, however i feel i did alot better because of you all here.
 
DairyCreamer

DairyCreamer

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I'm not applying for BDCP (minimum 2.7 GPA, doh!). Otherwise, understand, again, FY '04 Pilot Slots are OVER-filled, so, they definitnely aren't taking applications for the next year and some months worth of pilot slots. They are open for FY '05 though... which works great for me, since I'm not graduating until December '04 anyway. Gives me time to work, save some money, and get extra ultra fit :)

I don't want to get ahead of myself though... I've only taken one test. Lotta obstacles in the way before then.
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~Nate

Originally posted by chazmurr
Nate,

Are you applying for BDCP? Did your recruiter tell you they opened up the pilot applications again. I applied in April, was declined, and was told I might have to wait until the end of the year until I can apply again. Basically, I was told that they were not even looking at applications for pilot right now. If you heard different, then I need to get my application together again and resubmit. Any one else hear this news or any other change in the acceptance of pilot applications again?

I will contact my recruiter again to see what the news is!

Thanks,
Nick
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DairyCreamer

DairyCreamer

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By the way, I just managed to shock myself... I forgot the number scale for scores is the stanine scale, not percentile stuff.

According to the ARCO book:

9/9 is top 4% Of All Applicants
8/9 is Top 11%
7/9 = Top 23%
6/9 = Top 40%
5/9 = Top 60%
etc. etc.

Minimum Navy requirement is a 4 on the PFAR (top 77%), they like 6s and 7s (words from my recruiter).

~Nate
 
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chelu55

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DairyCreamer,
Those stats you got from your recruiter about the number of slots open, where they for the Navy or the Marines?
 
DairyCreamer

DairyCreamer

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Oh, sorry if I didn't specify. I was looking at Navy pilot slots for FY '05.

~Nate

Originally posted by chelu55
DairyCreamer,
Those stats you got from your recruiter about the number of slots open, where they for the Navy or the Marines?
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wes28lax

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When taking the ASTB, do they allow you to use or supply calculators? I take the test on the 22 of July!!
 
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russo22jax

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I am getting ready to take the test on July 31 for the third time!
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I seem to have the opposite problem of most guys on this site. My GPA is 3.81 at Embry Riddle but I cannot get my scores above 5/44 on the ASTB. I recently found this site and downloaded all of the gouge info to study. I have actually quit my job and taken a loan so that I can dedicate all my time to studying. After reading all of the postings I am confident that I can get in the 7-8 range with the new study materials. Wish me luck! FOR F**K SAKE I NEED IT MEN!
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