USN Junk in NATOPS

[AircraftGeek513]

Has anyone ever found something in their platforms NATOPS manual and wondered, "Why is this in here"?

 

[MGoBrew11]

No. It’s all really important and you should memorize all of it.

 

[nittany03]

Has anyone ever found something in their platforms NATOPS manual and wondered, "Why is this in here"?

Short answer? Yes. Slightly longer answer . . . now it's not even good as cocktail party trivia, because who the hell cares when the CSD decouples on a J52-P-408A turbojet? The private sector, admittedly, also has its own flavors of stupid. Different ones, but still stupid.

Edit: I will admit that during my time as NATOPS officer, I scrubbed the squadron's closed book exams of all bullshit NATOPS trivia. If you couldn't see/manipulate the number in the cockpit, or if knowing the exact number made no difference to your ability to handle an EP situation or otherwise operate the jet, it was yanked the hell out of my tests.

 

[Brett327]

The pointy-nosed communities are much more reasonable when it comes to random NATOPS knowledges than some other communities.

 

[HSMPBR]

Has anyone ever found something in their platforms NATOPS manual and wondered, "Why is this in here"?

Chapter 1, most of chapter 2, most of chapter 3, at least half of chapter 4, chapter 5, most of chapter 6, chapter 8 (there’s another pub for that), chapter 11 is absurd, half of chapter 12, and then the rest (MH-60R goes to 25[?]).

 

[Mos]

Yes.

 

[robav8r]

42% of it . . . .

 

[Angry]

The whole book...the important stuff is in the NATIP

 

[CommodoreMid]

I will say in P-8 we've gotten a lot better about not asking minutiae type questions for the most part.

 

[thump]

The whole book...the important stuff is in the NATIP

The only memory item in the H-60 is EMIF, everything else is “do pilot shit” and/or in the checklist. Chapter 4 is irrelevant if you have color vision.

Also, we (HSM) would have fewer ALFS mishaps if people understood that system (NATIP) better instead of memorizing bullshit limits and the 19 functions of the DECU.

 

[IKE]

The only memory item in the H-60 is EMIF, everything else is “do pilot shit” and/or in the checklist. Chapter 4 is irrelevant if you have color vision.

Also, we (HSM) would have fewer ALFS mishaps if people understood that system (NATIP) better instead of memorizing bullshit limits and the 19 functions of the DECU.

Here, here! MFAMIA (Make Freestream a Memory Item Again)!

I've saved two domes freestreaming without the checklist, and both Skippers were happy I did it.

 

[Dontcallmegump]

Here, here! MFAMIA (Make Freestream a Memory Item Again)!

I've saved two domes freestreaming without the checklist, and both Skippers were happy I did it.

What is this freestreaming you speak of?

I feel that if I googled it (or worse yet, used the search bar), I may miss out on not only one, but two entertaining stories on how "domes" were spared.

 

[IKE]

First, you'd need to Google why we even call the TA a dome, because I have no idea.

 

[OscarMyers]

Whats even worse is when you ask why something is in the E-2D NATOPS and the answer is "its probably a hold over from the E-2C." While there are a lot of similarities, they are practically two entire different aircraft...

 

[IKE]

Whats even worse is when you ask why something is in the E-2D NATOPS and the answer is "its probably a hold over from the E-2C." While there are a lot of similarities, they are practically two entire different aircraft...

The H-60B, F, H, and R are all the same airframe, but the airspeed limit for opening/closing the cabin door is different (10 KIAS less for B & R). Rumor has it they just copied and pasted the H-2 limit into the B NATOPS and the H-3 limit into the F/H NATOPS.