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Is Intermediate really gone?

xj220

Will fly for food.
pilot
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SERE is two weeks right? What is the rough percentage of people who go on the Navy side?
 

Gatordev

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SERE is two weeks right? What is the rough percentage of people who go on the Navy side?
Pretty close to 100% for aviators, excluding the random no-show that MB mentioned. When I went through, there were several Primary complete NFOs going through. The rest of us were post-FRS guys or random Marines/SEALs/etc. Oh, and one disgusting hinge P-3 NFO who was the SRO. Quick to point the blame to others, even in the middle of "camp."
 

Harrier Dude

Living the dream
The Marine Corps gets the leftover slots from the navy (basically). They send whoever they want, and we send what we can. That ends up being mainly jet guys since we have the most likelihood of going down by ourselves in the middle of nowhere surrounded by assholes.

Some helo guys have gone, but it seems to be pretty hit or miss.
 

CodWife

Proud of my hubby!
Well, not really, you still have to go back once you are done in Kingsville....so I guess it is called something else now, but you still have to pay your dues in CC. :)
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
By "Paying Dues" you mean "Deal with P3 SysNazis"?

:D

By far the most painful part of my Helo to E2C2 retread has been that. And I was treated as an IUT vice stud there.
 

BaconUSMC

New Member
pilot
I did three mideast deployments and returned to CONUS for SERE. As a 3yr captain, I was still 7th in line for chain of command. Luckily, I got SERE done right before my westpac deployment to Japan. Not uncommon for Marines to do SERE as available, which may mean never. Bacon
 

kmac

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Going back to the original topic, I began thinking... what did those guys do in Intermediate? So it leads me to this... for all the P-3 and helo bubbas, what did intermediate (in the T-34) consist of?

I'm guessing that the vnav flights in primary were part of intermediate, simply because I had never done one until I was an IUT. What else though?
 

Gatordev

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Going back to the original topic, I began thinking... what did those guys do in Intermediate? So it leads me to this... for all the P-3 and helo bubbas, what did intermediate (in the T-34) consist of?

I'm guessing that the vnav flights in primary were part of intermediate, simply because I had never done one until I was an IUT. What else though?
Exactly, pretty much everything after the 4100 block of RIs. NFAMs (I think), AirNavs, and VNAVs. There were more flights as well. They took the AirNavs away and replaced them w/ just the 4200 block. Very annoying because there were no real approach mins for the AN, but now you have to average 3 approaches a flight PLUS the 3 approaches on the 4390. There's ways around that, but per the book, that's requirement.

While there are currently 10 available X's in "Primary" (1 NFam, 4 RIs, 4 VNAVs, 4390), you could go much farther easier in the olden days. Add the 72 hour CCX limit now, and, well, you get the picture.
 
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