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Intel/IW badges?

jus2mch

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A historian officer badge. Now that is funny. Do you get randomly kicked when people see you wearing that?
 

HeyJoe

Fly Navy! ...or USMC
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A historian officer badge. Now that is funny. Do you get randomly kicked when people see you wearing that?

If so, probably intentionally :D

I don't think we have anyone in Navy with that specialty (as their primary job at least). We do have civil servants at museum in Pensacola however, but anyone seen anyone in uniform actually assigned as a historian?
 

MasterBates

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I was command historian at HSL-42 for a stint. It's a collateral job tacked on to a collateral job.

(collateral job for the PAO)
 

Flash

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Intel officers that serve in squadrons with multi-place crews can qualify for the Naval Aviation Observer (NAO) breast insignia. You have to achieve a basic level of NATOPS knowledge like "observer." Once you are qualified in the A/C and have logged 200 hours of flight time, you can apply for the NAO insignia.

NAO is not a warfare badge. Meteorologists don't get squat either.

I wouldn't put any stock in someone who has an NAO, I knew plenty of idiots/morons who wore them just for sitting in the plane for 200 hours.
 

FlyinSpy

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I wouldn't put any stock in someone who has an NAO, I knew plenty of idiots/morons who wore them just for sitting in the plane for 200 hours.
Owww, that hurts....

As someone who is 4.1 hrs away from my 200 in the Prowler, I won't disagree too much, other than to maybe suggest a rephrasing: "I wouldn't put any stock in anyone just because the have an NAO...". Me, I'm freakin' Google (from a stock perspective, that is). :icon_tong
 

Flash

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Owww, that hurts....

As someone who is 4.1 hrs away from my 200 in the Prowler, I won't disagree too much, other than to maybe suggest a rephrasing: "I wouldn't put any stock in anyone just because the have an NAO...". Me, I'm freakin' Google (from a stock perspective, that is). :icon_tong

Yeah, you are definitely right on changing the verbage......sorry about that......;) I know several who do wear the NAO wings who are plenty good at their jobs and deserve to wear the wings. Getting 200 hours in a Prowler is a lot more of an accomplishment too, they must have liked you!

I have just seen too many guys sporting them and wanting to be treated as though they got them because they were the sh!t. Uhhhh, not so fast there junior........

Don't worry Spy, you are one of 'us' and no one of 'those guys'......yet........;)
 

Belle

two babies make a mama insane
If so, probably intentionally :D

I don't think we have anyone in Navy with that specialty (as their primary job at least). We do have civil servants at museum in Pensacola however, but anyone seen anyone in uniform actually assigned as a historian?

The AF doesn't have a historian AFSC/MOS anymore, I think it was phased out a year or two ago. At the unit level it was/is always a collateral duty, but some of the Major Commands had AD historians (NCOs usually, don't think it was ever an officer billet) on staff. If there are any historians left, they are gov't civilians or contractors.

As far as the badges go, in the AF everyone (O and E) wears them once they get out of their initial technical training. It's so us zoomies don't get confused about what job we're supposed to be doing.
 

HeyJoe

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As far as the badges go, in the AF everyone (O and E) wears them once they get out of their initial technical training. It's so us zoomies don't get confused about what job we're supposed to be doing.

So I take it you have them memorized so you can recognize them at a glance....they're all so similar

And do they all get stars and wreaths like the pilot/navigators do?
 

Goober

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So I take it you have them memorized so you can recognize them at a glance....they're all so similar

And do they all get stars and wreaths like the pilot/navigators do?

Um...excuse me, HJ - they prefer the terms "senior" and "master historian." They're warriors and wield a mean filing cabinet. Ugh. Truth be told, they're all chrome and look like the same damn thing even if you squint.

Then again they've got some funky "space wings" going on now too. Always tempted to ask 'em "how many hours they've got in type...no, really, how many hours were you typing to get those?"

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Flash

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So I take it you have them memorized so you can recognize them at a glance....they're all so similar

And do they all get stars and wreaths like the pilot/navigators do?

Yes, they do, there is a description at the lower left.

af_badgesb.jpg
 

BackOrdered

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The Astronaut pin is the only particularly impressive badge the Airforce has over the Navy. That's some prestige.
 

HeyJoe

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The Astronaut pin is the only particularly impressive badge the Airforce has over the Navy. That's some prestige.

I think prestige is the Space Congressional Medal of Honor and other than the crews of Challenger and Columbia who received it posthumously, the last last two recepients were Crippen (former Navy A-4 pilot) in 2006 for his pioneering flight in Space Shuttle and Shepherd in 2003 for commanding International Space Station (ISS). Shepherd also held distinction of being first SEAL in space with a record setting number of days in space*.

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*speaking of prestigous wings...there he was... standing at the urinal at the Miramar O'Club in a flight suit with Shuttle Specialist wings on his nametag (after flying into Miramar in a NASA T-38). A very senior Air Force type standing at next urinal starts doesn't recognize the wings and starts bragging about having 5000 some odd hours and asks him how many hours he has...Shep's answer: 159 days...in space. Air Force guy mumbles something and rapidly departs.
 
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