I can't confirm, but from discussion with one of my mentees and chatter in the Reserve IP MS Teams thread, Reserve IP leadership have recognised the problem and the schoolhouse had begun authorising deviations for Reservists to stay under the PCS length threshold.I've never heard of any Reserve IWC officer (Intel, IP, etc.) attending IWBC.
IPBC IS A PCS MOVE... Plan accordingly as your entitlements are drastically lower than if you were on ADOS (formerly, ADSW) orders.
Really fantastic move by the schoolhouse, being able to stay on TDY orders for the duration really simplifies things. I can't imagine how difficult the IP course would be for someone fresh into the fleet as a reservist if they had to treat it like a PCS.I can't confirm, but from discussion with one of my mentees and chatter in the Reserve IP MS Teams thread, Reserve IP leadership have recognised the problem and the schoolhouse had begun authorising deviations for Reservists to stay under the PCS length threshold.
tl;dr: Aside from voluntary definite/indefinite recall orders, Reservists should never have to PCS.Really fantastic move by the schoolhouse, being able to stay on TDY orders for the duration really simplifies things. I can't imagine how difficult the IP course would be for someone fresh into the fleet as a reservist if they had to treat it like a PCS.
Especially considering a reservist who has a mortgage and would need to also plan to rent a room etc all on a O-1 salary :
*estimated (net) salary (3287.55 - (3287.55 *0.22)
*dependent BAH 1671
*BAS 256.68
= $4,491.76 (net) or $2,245.88 (net) a pay check
... would be rough. I get that we signed up for it, but considering as far as I can tell IP's have the longest single course by a long shot this move makes sense.
There is a caveat, if you're a somewhat high-grade GS civilian the pay differential is actually a really nice benefit the TLDR being you can go on leave (Military Leave (ML) and(or) Annual (LA)) and double dip, or go Leave Without Pay (LWOP) and get a pay differential.
Let's examine a base GS-13, rest of US locality .. that's approximately $7017 (gross) monthly, and we know the O-1 (gross) monthly is $5215.23 (see above).
OPM divides those by the number of days monthly (there is an offset if you go on LA at anytime vice stay LWOP the whole month) to get a daily rate, then subtracts the day rates and if the civ pay is higher, you get the difference.
Assuming 30 days for ease our GS-13 day rate would be $233.9 and the O-1 day rate would be $173.84 a difference of $60.06 daily.
30 days of LWOP you'd get a differential of $1801.80 for that month.
I'd estimate to be approximately $5897.37 (net) or $2948.68 (net) a pay check. At that point you'd actually be getting a raise over your normal assumed net of $5473.26.
But even with the differential being off TDY orders would still hurt as you'd lose $96 a night for lodging and $55 a day for per diem (these are Norfolk numbers where I travel to for work mostly) which over 137 days is $20,687 of benefit (not including your two travel days per-diem ($90) and travel costs).
Sorry for the long post, just throwing out some possible gouge I've come across for anyone searching forums. I'm also certain these numbers would be "lower" as OPM (in my experience) will be sure to ensure they pay out as little extra benefit as possible.
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Agree, but this is the Navy Reserve... Not exactly an agile organization...Reservists should never have to PCS.
I realize this is almost a year out from your original post, but thank you for offering your time and energy. As you stated, IP seems to be one of those career fields where not much press is out there; a lot of generalities. I recently got accepted for OCS as an IPO and am excited to Join the Navy. I did Cyber Ops and other jobs in the Air Force (enlisted), as well as a variety of tech jobs in the civilian world.There are currently 12 pages of IWC forum topics but I don't see anything general for the IP community. I first found this site in 2016 when I was looking at joining the Navy and have since completed my first regular tour as an IP officer at NCTS Naples, Italy. I went through OCS in Rhode Island. If you have questions about OCS, the IW community (from an IP perspective), or about the life of a normal IP, please feel free to ask.
1. As a general rule of thumb, IPs manage the C4ISR infrastructure (radios, IT networks, etc.) while CWs/IWs/Cryppies perform "offensive" operations within the C4ISR domain.I realize this is almost a year out from your original post, but thank you for offering your time and energy. As you stated, IP seems to be one of those career fields where not much press is out there; a lot of generalities. I recently got accepted for OCS as an IPO and am excited to Join the Navy. I did Cyber Ops and other jobs in the Air Force (enlisted), as well as a variety of tech jobs in the civilian world.
1) Is Information Professional = Information Technology, like Servers, Networking, Computers, (NMCI), etc? Or DOD-type communication technology like SIPERNET, SATCOM, Radios, and other communication equipment typically used by the military? (or perhaps that's what Crypto does?)
2) How much hands-on do IP Officers get with technology, compared to Manager/Leader/Administrative responsibilities?
3) My understanding of the most recent IP "pipeline" is OCS (13 weeks) + IPBQ (20 weeks)? What are some other career steps after that?
4) How much a say do we have in duty locations? Is there a dream sheet program, or more the needs of the Navy?
5) What are some career mistakes to avoid, and smart career choices to make?
Again, thank you for your time and energy!
Eugene,I realize this is almost a year out from your original post, but thank you for offering your time and energy. As you stated, IP seems to be one of those career fields where not much press is out there; a lot of generalities. I recently got accepted for OCS as an IPO and am excited to Join the Navy. I did Cyber Ops and other jobs in the Air Force (enlisted), as well as a variety of tech jobs in the civilian world.
1) Is Information Professional = Information Technology, like Servers, Networking, Computers, (NMCI), etc? Or DOD-type communication technology like SIPERNET, SATCOM, Radios, and other communication equipment typically used by the military? (or perhaps that's what Crypto does?)
2) How much hands-on do IP Officers get with technology, compared to Manager/Leader/Administrative responsibilities?
3) My understanding of the most recent IP "pipeline" is OCS (13 weeks) + IPBQ (20 weeks)? What are some other career steps after that?
4) How much a say do we have in duty locations? Is there a dream sheet program, or more the needs of the Navy?
5) What are some career mistakes to avoid, and smart career choices to make?
Again, thank you for your time and energy!