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India and Pakistan

taxi1

taxi1

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Deserves its own thread. They have always been the duo most likely to nuke each other, even at peak Cold War.

I predict they go all the way this time, fully consummating their nuke relationship. Both have become countries of religion-driven decision making.

Thoughts?
 
Swanee

Swanee

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taxi1 said:
Deserves its own thread. They have always been the duo most likely to nuke each other, even at peak Cold War.

I predict they go all the way this time, fully consummating their nuke relationship. Both have become countries of religion-driven decision making.

Thoughts?
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This is the perfect time for Trump to put his money where his mouth is and negotiate a peace treaty between these two nuclear powers before it becomes something neither of them can back down from.
 
TacticalTater

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ChuckMK23 said:
This is a good thread and timely. Am I right understanding that air-air engagements are happening at scale?
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This was from defensenews, but unconfirmed.

More than 125 Indian and Pakistani fighter jets reportedly engaged in a dogfight lasting more than an hour in the early hours of Wednesday, according to an unnamed Pakistani security source cited by CNN.

If confirmed, it would mark one of the largest aerial battles since World War II.

The alleged operation, referred to as “Operation Sindhoor,” is said to have taken place entirely within the airspace of both countries. CNN reports that long-range missiles were exchanged from distances exceeding 100 miles, with neither side breaching the other's airspace.
 
mmx1

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As far as I can tell, Saudi Arabia appears to be the most active external mediator (as far as is publicly discernible) between India and Pakistan (and is well-positioned to do so, for a variety of reasons). Saudi FM has been to both countries. https://x.com/KSAmofaEN/status/1920987266798727641
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MIDNJAC

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TacticalTater said:
This was from defensenews, but unconfirmed.

More than 125 Indian and Pakistani fighter jets reportedly engaged in a dogfight lasting more than an hour in the early hours of Wednesday, according to an unnamed Pakistani security source cited by CNN.

If confirmed, it would mark one of the largest aerial battles since World War II.

The alleged operation, referred to as “Operation Sindhoor,” is said to have taken place entirely within the airspace of both countries. CNN reports that long-range missiles were exchanged from distances exceeding 100 miles, with neither side breaching the other's airspace.
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I dunno. Sounds a lot like the initial claims in Ukraine, which turned out to just be DCS screenshots. Call me skeptical. Maybe some of you all are privy to reliable intel. which I won't ask about, but forgive my ignorance in that case pls
 
Griz882

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The Pakistanis have confirmed the battle.
trt.global

TRT Global - Massive India-Pakistan clash in skies involved 125 jets, largest dogfight since WW2

Air engagement did not escalate into a full-scale cross-border war, with both sides reportedly remaining within their respective airspaces.
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It is obviously a “modern” dogfight with more long range shooting and less Battle of Britain kind of stuff. The Washington Post confirms at least one Indian Rafale fighter shot down by surface-to-air and the article I posted notes the first use of the Chinese PL-15 missile. I imagine there is a lot to be learned here.
 
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