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IFS down the tubes?
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MasterBates
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Anyone who went through API prior to late 2001 didn't get IFS.
You'll be fine.
You'll be fine.
^^^ This.
If I hadn't attended IFS there's no way I would have made it through flight school.
Said no pilot ever.
Said no pilot ever.
Hmmm, for the first 90 years of Naval Aviation, we survived without IFS and the nuggets prospered with many accomplishments, i.e., air race records & trophies, Midway, Marianas, Korea, 'Nam, Astronauts, Iraq/Afghan, etc.
*These guys did OK without IFS!
No worries boysan, it shouldn't set you back. One less hoop to jump through, one less pool to delay your winging!
BzB
IFS was pretty easy and mostly fun. However, while there I either knew of or heard about 3 minor mishaps, 2 DORs, 2 people who had PRBs, and 1 person attrite. That said flying a Cessna does next to nothing to prepare you for the T6, it really just serves as a weed out process.
I had the opposite experience. Everyone got through IFS, then we had 4 DORs and a couple of attrites during the FAM and Contact stage in primary. IFS didn't work so well to weed though guys out.
I'm gonna disagree with the general tone here. I've seen, on the whole, a pretty big difference in contact grades (granted, just by asking and peeking over shoulders) between people with PPLs and other prior time and those who just did IFS. I'm sure the gap would be bigger without IFS. That's a pretty sizable chunk of your NSS. Am I saying you can't get jet grades without a PPL? No, but your odds are a lot better than the guy without one. If anything IFS should be more robust.
There's your first mistake.
"The Dude abides"...
IFS…no IFS…the system just doesn't rely on this…and never has. Was probably "nice to have" when it was affordable. Now…maybe?…not so much.
Right, because you, a primary stud, know much better than those guys who wear wings on their chests, some of them who are indeed your instructors. You know, the ones who are in the airplane with studs and filling out grade sheets daily- not "peeking over shoulders" and sticking their nose where it doesn't fucking belong.
The design of the program was to weed out studs who weren't going to adapt to flying without spending the dough to get them in the T-34. The program is useful, but I am sure in this era of cutting costs and relying on simulators to take the load off the plane, even in primary, it is high on the list of items to cut.
That said, I honestly don't think it helps very much. The general comment from a student on C-4001 is "whoa, this thing is nothing like the Cessna that I flew in IFS!" And yes, the students sucked just as bad as I did with no ifs as a student.
That said, I honestly don't think it helps very much. The general comment from a student on C-4001 is "whoa, this thing is nothing like the Cessna that I flew in IFS!" And yes, the students sucked just as bad as I did with no ifs as a student.
As a guy who came in with a small amount of civilian experience (commercial, IR, single engine, minimum hrs), I will say that there were plenty of guys with 0 hrs who did just as well or better than me in primary, and did better than I did in jets and the FRS. In fact, I may be one of only a couple guys in the JOPA in my squadron who had any prior experience flying before the Navy. It is just a completely different kind of flying. I think instrument experience gave me a small leg up in primary (which is not something that every PPL guy has), but after that, it didn't matter at all.