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How to "reinstate" an officer commission

chrispaul

NFO
None
Warriors,
I have been out of the Navy for many years (ex-AD, O-3, 1320 designator) and am exploring a return to uniform into the Reserves. My recruiter is thinking a DCO board, but as I've talked to others, it seems there may be an easier way to reinstate a commission. Any gouge on this?
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Warriors,
I have been out of the Navy for many years (ex-AD, O-3, 1320 designator) and am exploring a return to uniform into the Reserves. My recruiter is thinking a DCO board, but as I've talked to others, it seems there may be an easier way to reinstate a commission. Any gouge on this?
There used to be a 5 year limit on separating and then reinstating your commission but that was done away with in '09 or so. I'll ask my buddy who was out for 6 years and affected by that what the relevant instruction/s are or any gouge he has.
 

RecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
Warriors,
I have been out of the Navy for many years (ex-AD, O-3, 1320 designator) and am exploring a return to uniform into the Reserves. My recruiter is thinking a DCO board, but as I've talked to others, it seems there may be an easier way to reinstate a commission. Any gouge on this?
You need to be working with a NAVET recruiter. Each region has one and your OR should point you to the right direction.
 

jason0231

1835 USNR/IRR
chrispaul,

My first question would be: what were the circumstances of your departure? Did you resign your commission or just leave after meeting your obligations? I know the MILPERSMAN 1920-190 is a good place to start and would echo previous recommendations that you work with a recruiter. The DCO process is fraught with confusion and delay, so I would avoid that at all costs unless it is the only way to get back into the Navy.

Link to MILPERSMAN 1920-190 here:

http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/milpersman/1000/1900Separation/Documents/1920-190.pdf

Finally, I would urge you to document your situation every step of the way, both to protect yourself and to benefit the AirWarriors community.

Good Luck!

Jason
 

RecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
chrispaul,

My first question would be: what were the circumstances of your departure? Did you resign your commission or just leave after meeting your obligations? I know the MILPERSMAN 1920-190 is a good place to start and would echo previous recommendations that you work with a recruiter. The DCO process is fraught with confusion and delay, so I would avoid that at all costs unless it is the only way to get back into the Navy.

Link to MILPERSMAN 1920-190 here:

http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/milpersman/1000/1900Separation/Documents/1920-190.pdf

Finally, I would urge you to document your situation every step of the way, both to protect yourself and to benefit the AirWarriors community.

Good Luck!

Jason
Somewhat-bad gouge. He doesn't do a DCO process, he does a NAVET since he previously served as a Naval Officer.

The OP needs to work with a NAVET recruiter to figure out if he's eligible and if so how to get back into a SELRES status.
 

chrispaul

NFO
None
Thanks for the comments. To answer RURiO181, I originally left after fully meeting my active duty obligations. A quick update on my situation:

1) Through my network of old Navy shipmates, I got it touch with some knowledgeable folks in the Reserves and in the community I'm trying to land in (AEDO)
2) Based on their guidance, DCO is not the way to go and would be a much more difficult pathway. Instead, I'll be seeking reappointment into the Reserves (staying in my previous designator) through a NAVET recruiter at Navy Recruiting Command rather than a "regular" Reserve recruiter in my area.
3) Through these contacts, I'm now in touch with a LTJG at CNRC in Millington who's job is Officer NAVET Accessions. He is walking me through the paperwork and will be my "go-to" guy for the process. If successfully reappointed in my previous designator (ie back in uniform), I can later pursue a transfer to AEDO through a redesignation board.
4) Given my age, timing is not on my side and none of this is a sure bet. But this NAVET Accessions officer seems gung-ho to give it a go. The worst that can happen is a "no, thank you" from the Navy.
 
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chrispaul

NFO
None
For other's benefit, here is the game plan CNRC is following for my case:

1. Apply for reappointment off the PERS 9 status check.
2. A medical appointment from the MEPS to give PERS 9 a cleared 2808, 2807-1, and N3M letter.
3. CNRC provides PERS 91 with your reappointment request letter, previous separation orders, SF-86, MEPS documents, resume, and DD-214.
4. PERS 91 grants/rejects the request.
5. If yes, then CRNC loads all your documents up for processing that are required in CIRIMS; most we have already completed in step 2 and 3 above.
6. PERS 9 will send the approval to PERS 8. PERS 8 will provide a new Oath. You then will raise your right hand with an Officer of choice, swear in, and become a Navy Officer again right where you left in rank/designator.
7. Now that you a Navy Officer, NRC N3 can affiliate you to a local Navy Operational Support Center (NOSC) near your home.
8. N3 processing sends you the final documents and directs you to check in at the NOSC.
9. NOSC check-in.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Jesus that sounds awesome - I'm at 20 years since AD - any hope? I'd love to get a .mil pension.
Well, like we tell all the rest of the applicants here your chances of being accepted if you don't apply are 0%. The only thing that would prevent you from even trying is if you weren't going to get to 20 years before age 62, the mandatory retirement age. So if are okay there, why not try?
 

Hair Warrior

New Member
Great gouge. I'm curious - if you're an O-3 or O-4, do they reset your time-in-grade to enable you to better reintegrate and compete for higher rank? (That's what they do for DCOs coming in at O-3.)
 

Sam I am

Average looking, not a farmer.
Great gouge. I'm curious - if you're an O-3 or O-4, do they reset your time-in-grade to enable you to better reintegrate and compete for higher rank? (That's what they do for DCOs coming in at O-3.)
Yes...I have a buddy who had a 4 year break in service while he went to law school and got a job afterward. He left AD with 9 years right before his first look at O-4. When he came back, he came back as an O-3 (obviously) but his clock at O-3 started over (not so obvious)...not sure what the exact reason for that was, but that was the case.
 

Hair Warrior

New Member
Yes...I have a buddy who had a 4 year break in service while he went to law school and got a job afterward. He left AD with 9 years right before his first look at O-4. When he came back, he came back as an O-3 (obviously) but his clock at O-3 started over (not so obvious)...not sure what the exact reason for that was, but that was the case.
Probably a rationale similar to this:

"h. All recommended prior service commissioned officers shall be commissioned at their last commissioned rank. Recruiters are instructed to reset time-in-grade clocks for any professionally recommended candidates that will be commissioned in the grade of O-3 so as to not disadvantage or hinder the candidate's future promotion opportunities."
 
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