I wouldn’t expect that much difference. The H was just a stripped down B. Suspect that they will do the same.
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Agreed, but to my limited knowledge, the stripping will be less thorough. While the sonar and buoy launcher are obvious deletes, I expect the SO console to remain (kinda like H), but also radar, and I'm not sure you can order a Romeo without the ESM antennas.
Probably similiar to the Dane's CG versions.
I was wondering if ESM would be a delete item. I wouldn't imagine they'd want to pay for the logistics tail of that. There are blanker plates for the arrays. Here's one of one of the RAN aircraft from a press release, there's some other photos of one of the INN aircraft (that I can't manage to find on Google right now).
Not the prettiest, but probably cheaper than redoing the airframe.
The article mentions the lack of weather radar, but Romeo does have weather radar capability, it just has to be turned on in the software. I'm not sure if that's made it into the domestic AOP by now.
Nope
I wonder if that means it also needs another black box. It was supposed to be delivered in one of the export versions in 2022-ish. The first three off the line didn't have the capability, so I wasn't able to see it in action.
Good to know we can still win a race to the bottom. Maybe we could get ATP to pick up our primary training as well.
You're not wrong Griz!!
What data are you basing that off of? What, specifically, do you object to? I actually want to know, because I've flown these 66s and they seem like great trainers to me. I've also flown with the IPs from Helicopter Institute and I'll put them up against anyone at Whiting any day. I'm serious about this. The entire contract is up for rebid next year so if you have something more concrete than, "That's not the way I did it back in my day." I want to know what it is so that I can make sure the contract addresses it.
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Speaking of Robinson, the development of the R-88 was recently unveiled. Single Turbomecca Arrel 2W of 1,000 HP -seats about 8 pax.
verticalmag.com
A deep dive into the R88’s main rotor system with Robinson CEO David Smith
Vertical connected with Robinson Helicopter Company’s chief executive for a detailed discussion of the design process and tradeoffs associated with the R88’s two-bladed main rotor system.
verticalmag.com
If you are asking if I have done an in depth study of training helicopters for military purposes, no, I have not. I rather doubt the Helicopter Institute has either. But that isn’t my point, I have zero complaints about the instructors there and believe COPT-R to be a very good idea.
But that isn’t it. I disagree that the Robinson product is a sound military trainer, and yes, I have hours in the R-22, -44, and -66. Here is some actual data for you…since 1982, there have been 512 deaths Robinson crashes worldwide. How might the Bell 206 compare? You say the Bell 505 is for doctors and weekend fliers, I say the Robinson is for low rent tour operators, not demanding military training.
I get it, the turbine helicopter training market is in the dump right now, but Robinson is not the answer.
Any idea if they'll reword the "Part 141-like curriculum" to something more Navy-ish FTI? I know you and I had chatted about how Navy contracting doesn't always know how to correctly translate words to the real world.
Word I got the other day from management is that the A-Star and the -130 are currently going through IFR certification. As you've commented on before, I can see the -125 not being a contender because of it's anti-anti-clockwise problem, but the -130 is an interesting option.
I believe it was said that the -125 was first, followed by the -130, but no timeline was given (if it's even known, given the shut down).