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Adrenaline Rush

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can someone please help with #19 and #24 (ghost u explained it but i still dont understand) for the math part,, they just dont seem to click with me,,
thanks
 

rabbit845

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I'm assuming you mean problems 19 and 24, from the vaunted "Marine Corps study guide" Word document thats floating around?

19:

x=.5t(y-z)

You want to find this equation in terms of y.

x=.5t(y-z)
x=.5ty-.5tz
(by some property of multiplication)

x+.5tz=.5ty
(by adding .5tz to both sides)

(x+.5tz)/(.5t)=y
(dividing both sides by .5t)

(x/.5t)+(.5tz)/(.5t)=y
(by some property of addition. (a+b)/c == a/c + b/c.)

(x/.5t)+z=y
(canceled the denominator in the z part. (ab)/a=b.)

(2x)/t + z=y

This last set is (in part) x/(1/2). Dividing by something is the same as multiplying by the reciprocal. IE, 4/9 = 4*(1/9).

And also, I should note, that (2x)/t == 2x/t (so that it looks like it does in the answer
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rabbit845

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For #24, you startout with:


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and end up with:

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So 4 feet of tarp are tacked onto a x-square tarp. This means that while one side changes, the other side stays the same.

So we know that the original area is base times height, or x*x. Our new "base" is (x+4), but our height is still x.

(x+4)x = x^2 + 4x

You could also look at this another way:

You still have the old tarp. Its area is x^2. The new part is x high, and 4 long. The new parts area is 4x. Add the two together, and you have x^2 + 4x.
 

AllenAzali

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can someone help me with #6 in the math section
Which is true?
A. 2/25 > 1/10
B. 1/10 > 3/30
C. 2/28 < 3/35
D. 5/13 = 4/5

Are there any shortcuts to this problem. It take me like 5 minutes to convert them into decimals, are there any proportional experts out there that can offer advice?
 

rabbit845

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I did them in this order: A, B, D. I skipped C precisely because the conversion would've been too time-consuming. The first thing you should try to do in a multiple choice problem is get rid of options. Working against the clock, I just do the fastest ones first, and see what drops out.

As far as the math goes I can't really give you a trick. I did it the first way--but depending on how comfortable you are with mental math, the second method might be easier.

A) something times twenty-five is a nice multiple of ten. Two times twenty-five is fifty which is neatly divisible by ten.
B) as above. X*10 is neatly divisible by 30--X is 3.
C) skipped
D) 4/5 is close to a whole, 5/13 isn't even a half. False.

The above might be easier, or this:

If you take the inverse of these, you end up with easier denominators: remember to switch the test statement. After modifying them:

A) (25/2) < (10/1). 25/2 is a little more than 12, which is bigger than 10. false.
B) 10 is equal to 10. false.
C) 28/2 > 35/3. 28/2 is 14, but 35/3 is about 12. true.
D) 13/5 = 5/4. 13/5 is almost 3, but 5/4 is just more than 1. false.
 

AllenAzali

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Yea, I guess there is no quick trick for #6. I noticed that B was pretty straigt forward. Took your point to consider wholes and halfs with D. Inverse trick worked well with A. Which leaves C. Thanks again.

I beleve its the quick tricks that help the most, especially during a timed test.

For example on math section #28. On first impression I thought I had to figure out the numbers for all ranks then add them up for the total. But I also learned that you just add them up and divide by 2. For total head count.

#33 is also a doosie. Throw out the Sin, Cos, Tan. and use the distance/rate formula.
 

AllenAzali

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Can anybody remember the gouge for the monkey climbing the rope and the pendulum swinging questions found in test 1. I believe they were mechanical questions.
 

budaploud

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Allen,
Did you get that pulley question figured out? I'm supposing that you had version 1 of the ASTB? I think that question was a mixture of a basic pulley question and an equilibrium question...with the monkey and whatever was on the other end of the rope being balanced.
 

mimisoko9

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Would anyone be willing to walk me through #34 on the math section of the ASTB prep test? I have not been able to figure it out.

Thanks.
 

Spin

SNA in Meridian
mimisoko9,

Ok here we go:

It's actually a pretty straight forward problem once you get through the confusing wording.

-For all real numbers x and y, x*y = y(x+1)

-If -4*j = -6 then j=

#1. Well, from looking at the problem we can figure out that
-4 is x and j is y.

#2. Since #1 above is true then -6 = y(x+1).

#3. Since #2 is true then can figure out that -6 = y(-4*1) (don't forget that y is really j but I am using y to make it easier). Then we just solve like a regular algebra problem.

-6 = -4y+1y

-6 = -3y

-6/-3 = -3y/-3

2 = y

and then since y is j ..... j = 2 or answer c.

I hope that wasn't too confusing!!

Peace,

-Spin
 

mimisoko9

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Okay. I think I was just confused about the way it was being asked. Wouldn't have known to assume y=j based on how it was presented.

Thanks so much for the help,

Mimi
 
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