Deranged. Whatever you have to tell yourself. This is an amazing deal for Americans. Trump is perhaps the most consequential president of the modern era. What an incredible win for America. I’m sorry that makes you upset
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There was literally no real deal. Thinking that this was yet another great evolution is the true TDS.
That is a question for the voters. Personally, I believe the democrats will take the House in the midterms, only by five seats or so, but enough to blunt Trump’s ambitions - but not his rough style. Let’s at least be honest with ourselves…both political parties have substantial issues that have put the country in a hyper-partisan place where most people don’t vote for or against policy but rather for tribalism. In short, we accept it because that is all we are offered.
Historical Analysis
/hĭ-stôr′ĭ-kəl, -stŏr′-/ /ə-năl′ĭ-sĭs/
1. discipline that studies the chronological record of events, usually attempting, on the basis of a critical examination of source materials, to explain events.
When asked, Trump couldn’t articulate how this concept of a deal was different from the status quo. Neither will you.
While we’re posting definitions of various things, here are two I find apropos to our current situation:
en.wikipedia.org
In short, the more Trump does this, the more it becomes expected behavior of POTUS (“of the U.S.”, for those that need clarification). This is also the logical outcome of a long string of presidential excesses and partisan siloing on both sides of the aisle. I see Trump as the latest symptom of a much bigger problem.
Imagine a future president JD Vance or DJT Jr. trying the same tactics Trump uses, because it’s been normalized. Now imagine a Democrat doing the same things with their issues. Either way, it should scare everyone, but I know it won’t. For some, political tribalism has exceeded all other reason.
Walking this all back (if we ever do) is going to be very difficult.
Also this:
I have commented on this before, but using terms like “TDS” is a facile ad-hominem attack for people who are too lazy or uninformed to actually debate the issues at hand. See also “libtard”or “deplorable”.
The above definition does apply, but not in the way Trump’s supporters enjoy using it.
If your argument calls you to insult the person, some self-reflection is in order.
Normalization of deviance - Wikipedia
In short, the more Trump does this, the more it becomes expected behavior of POTUS (“of the U.S.”, for those that need clarification). This is also the logical outcome of a long string of presidential excesses and partisan siloing on both sides of the aisle. I see Trump as the latest symptom of a much bigger problem.
Imagine a future president JD Vance or DJT Jr. trying the same tactics Trump uses, because it’s been normalized. Now imagine a Democrat doing the same things with their issues. Either way, it should scare everyone, but I know it won’t. For some, political tribalism has exceeded all other reason.
Walking this all back (if we ever do) is going to be very difficult.
Also this:
I have commented on this before, but using terms like “TDS” is a facile ad-hominem attack for people who are too lazy or uninformed to actually debate the issues at hand. See also “libtard”or “deplorable”.
The above definition does apply, but not in the way Trump’s supporters enjoy using it.
If your argument calls you to insult the person, some self-reflection is in order.
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Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
A good portion of "TDS" is media fabrication.
Trump is a reporter's wet dream. His rhetoric and hyperbole make juicy headlines that can be spun out of context, and anytime anyone wants to hold the media accountable for accuracy they hide behind the first amendment. Spinning Bush 43 as retarded didn't even sell this much.
As an example: every instance of ICE arresting or detaining an American citizen or permanent resident revolves around obstruction of justice or assaulting an officer. But that's always buried as a 1-liner in like paragraph 7 of 12.
However, I don't believe Greenland was media fabrication. A couple of days ago, Trump was seriously tasking his staffers and senior military leaders to plan for an attack.
My teenagers often ask me questions on current events and up until Greenland, I can usually explain the issue at contention without any political spin. Many times they disagree with what Trump wants to accomplish, but it at least removes the 'omg he's psycho' misconception from his policies.
When they asked me about Greenland and Trump's incendiary texts to other world leaders... I got nothing to explain it.
Trump is a reporter's wet dream. His rhetoric and hyperbole make juicy headlines that can be spun out of context, and anytime anyone wants to hold the media accountable for accuracy they hide behind the first amendment. Spinning Bush 43 as retarded didn't even sell this much.
As an example: every instance of ICE arresting or detaining an American citizen or permanent resident revolves around obstruction of justice or assaulting an officer. But that's always buried as a 1-liner in like paragraph 7 of 12.
However, I don't believe Greenland was media fabrication. A couple of days ago, Trump was seriously tasking his staffers and senior military leaders to plan for an attack.
My teenagers often ask me questions on current events and up until Greenland, I can usually explain the issue at contention without any political spin. Many times they disagree with what Trump wants to accomplish, but it at least removes the 'omg he's psycho' misconception from his policies.
When they asked me about Greenland and Trump's incendiary texts to other world leaders... I got nothing to explain it.
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Indeed. So do you believe the threat of military force against Greenland was serious, or not? Earlier in this thread, you argued it wasn’t.
Spekkio
He bowls overhand.
I don't think I said that. My last post on his threat of force said that Trump often speaks in hyperbole, but when he's serious he gets specific... and he was specific toward Greenland.
I said that I had thought he wasn't serious during his inauguration speech because I figured people would talk him down off that ledge or he'd just drop it. But that speech was delivered about a year ago.
I provide you with the following quote:
So, I am unclear on your position.
I do not believe he ever intended to use military force. Shout, sure. Bluster, absolutely. Be Trump, he was. But in the cold light of day even he, as self-absorbed as he is, knows there are limits. Now, if I took @Spekkio out of context, that is my fault, not his.
Correct. The “deal” is just a self-justification…a continuation of Trump’s style.
Nice article by economist Tyler Cohen,
www.thefp.com
He sums things up well by noting. “It is our politicians who remain stuck in the older world of creaky, inflexible nationalism.”
The Davos Crowd Is Wrong About Globalization
At Davos, as the elites clap back at Trump, U.S. soft power is rising, writes Tyler Cowen.
www.thefp.com
He sums things up well by noting. “It is our politicians who remain stuck in the older world of creaky, inflexible nationalism.”