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Future of Marines and Tailhooks?

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eddie

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If the tranistion to the STOVL F-35 is complete by 2015 (assuming everything goes to the current scheduale, that is), does that mean that someday, Marines may stop learning how to trap on the boat?

Just a thought.
 
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Blutonski816

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As long as the Marine Corps is learning to fly jets side-by-side with the Navy (and as long as some of those jets operate from a CVN), there will always be Leathernecks who are tailhookers....
 

Aviator4000

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eddiemac0 said:
If the tranistion to the STOVL F-35 is complete by 2015 (assuming everything goes to the current scheduale, that is), does that mean that someday, Marines may stop learning how to trap on the boat?

Just a thought.

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the Marine Corps is going to purchase some carrier versions of this plane. I also heard that the Air Force is going to by some STOVL F-35's, I forget the exact reasoning behind it but that is what I read.
 

mmx1

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I believe the STOVL F-35's for the Air Force are intended to replace the A-10.
 

mat

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I was wondering the same thing, but more along the lines of the tacair integration. I thought the order for Marine tacair was 1st support Maines and 2nd supplement Naval carrier aviation. Wouldn't that mean either CVN versions of the 35 for Marines or CVNs that accept STOVL?
 

Grant

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If the Navy expects the Marines to continue deploying squadrons as part of carrier air wings on CVN's, it would seem logical that the Marines would buy some naval versions of the F-35, and keep the STOVL's on the Gators.
 

Physicx

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From what I heard the way they can make the position of the engine change not just up and downl.But at different angles they could land on a carrier without hovering like the harrier.And the Air Force just realized like everyone said the F-35 is not going to replace the A-10.Thats why there upgrading them.
 

eddie

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I guess I just got the wrong impression that all USMC F-35s (F/A-35s??) were going to be STOVL.

Could A-10's be converted for carrier work... they have beefy gear, no (my pre-emptive apology if its has been discussed)?

Again, just a thought.
 

Grant

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eddiemac0 said:
I guess I just got the wrong impression that all USMC F-35s (F/A-35s??) were going to be STOVL.

Could A-10's be converted for carrier work... they have beefy gear, no (my pre-emptive apology if its has been discussed)?

Again, just a thought.

Yes, its been discussed before on the forum. And the general concensus was that it would be more hassle that it would be worthwhile.
 

Brett327

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eddiemac0 said:
I guess I just got the wrong impression that all USMC F-35s (F/A-35s??) were going to be STOVL.

Could A-10's be converted for carrier work... they have beefy gear, no (my pre-emptive apology if its has been discussed)?

Again, just a thought.
Why in the world would you want to put an A-10 on a carrier? This is wrong on so many levels. For starters, can you say wing fold, boys and girls? That's right, I knew you could. :) :)

Brett
 

skidkid

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Not sure the Marine Corps can handle any more A-10 support. Though a cool airplane, they killed quite a few Marines heading up to Bagdad, that and the Patriot missiles were the most effective weapons in the Iraqi inventory. (sarcasm-no the Iraqis didnt have Patriots)

Moral of the story learn your damn Recce and when in doubt if its friendly or not dont fvcking shoot, we're winning it will be ok.
 

Flash

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skidkid said:
Not sure the Marine Corps can handle any more A-10 support. Though a cool airplane, they killed quite a few Marines heading up to Bagdad, that and the Patriot missiles were the most effective weapons in the Iraqi inventory. (sarcasm-no the Iraqis didnt have Patriots)

Moral of the story learn your damn Recce and when in doubt if its friendly or not dont fvcking shoot, we're winning it will be ok.

I read a pretty extensive Marine Corps Times article that said a Marine FAC (F/A-18 WSO) was at fault in the incident at the bridge in Nasiriyah. He did not know that there were Marines across the bridge and called in an airstrike. As for Recce, it is pretty damn hard to see the difference between a LAV, BMP or a AAV in an urban enviroment in a tactical jet.

I looked fo rand could not find the MC Times article but found this one from the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3581151.stm
 

skidkid

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Yes, there was blame to go around in that incident however A-10 shot up some LAVs in Gulf War I and were at fault. The common denominator in both was A-10s. The FAC did screw up but so did the pilots. All in all a bad day for the team.
 

dufault.2

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eddiemac0 said:
Could A-10's be converted for carrier work... they have beefy gear, no (my pre-emptive apology if its has been discussed)?

Trust me man, no apology needed for bringing up an old post. I think it is a safe bet to say you are the first person ever to ask if an A-10 could be carrier based.

Kudos
 
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