Same here.
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flying on us air from dayton to philly on monday, 1/23
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Same here.
Here, too.
HAL Pilot's comments are spot on.
I may have been the world's best f'n aviator in all of recent history – military and civilian - with thousands of hours of experience. But given all the changes and new pressures upon upgrade to Captain, and considering a new reserve captain has to fly with an inexperienced new-hire off the street and often in the middle of the night in the worst weather imaginable, those extra "high minimums" are a god-send.... not for me, of course
......but for your 'more average' former Naval aviator.
Besides, rules is rules (thankfully!).
I may have been the world's best f'n aviator in all of recent history – military and civilian - with thousands of hours of experience. But given all the changes and new pressures upon upgrade to Captain, and considering a new reserve captain has to fly with an inexperienced new-hire off the street and often in the middle of the night in the worst weather imaginable, those extra "high minimums" are a god-send.... not for me, of course
......but for your 'more average' former Naval aviator. Besides, rules is rules (thankfully!).
Hal,
Do airlines require the pilot in a particular seat to land (with pax on board) or can the crew decide.
In helos, we train to land from each seat, but I realize the airlines are very different in a lot of ways.
So, assuming that nothing has happened, like a pilot getting sick in-flight, are you restricted to always having the left (or right) seat pilot land?
Do airlines require the pilot in a particular seat to land (with pax on board) or can the crew decide.
In helos, we train to land from each seat, but I realize the airlines are very different in a lot of ways.
So, assuming that nothing has happened, like a pilot getting sick in-flight, are you restricted to always having the left (or right) seat pilot land?
Capt always lands from the left seat and the F/O always lands from the right. We usually take every other leg and use the terms PF (pilot flying) and PNF (pilot not flying). As I recall, Boeings only have a ground steering tiller on the left. The Airbus has a tiller on both sides but my company SOP only allows the Capt to taxi.
So you can have thousands of hours in type having never taxied the aircraft? That blows my mind.
Yup. The only Boeing I know with a tiller on both sides is the 747. However before you go flying off on your own as a Captain, you will have done IOE with a checkairman Captain who will teach you to taxi the beast.
Like Fallonflyr said, Capt flies left seat and FO flies right seat. However, at my airline if a checkairman (qualified in both seats) is flying, he can let a FO fly from the left seat if he wants. I've never seen it happen and never heard of any FO ever wanting/asking to do this.
As an FO, if my Captain became incapacitated I would land from the right as that is what I'm used to. I'd stop the aircraft on the runway and have it towed.
ryan1234
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Hal,
At your airline, do they give a PIC type to the FO?
Definitely different from 121 and varying greatly, in our part 91 business jet operations, seat swapping is very common. Flying, for us, is usually seat dependent, but not always. It seems like it integrates the crew a good bit and keeps everyone sharp. Not to mention, jumping in the left seat usually gives the FO/SIC a break from doing all of the work.
So the FO is in the right seat for every flight until he flys in the role of Captain? You guys don't swap seats between legs?
I just always assumed the two pilots would swap sides for different flights and like in helos the pilot in a particular seat (for us it's the right seat) will normally make the landing.
Learn something new everyday!
You would also tell them to take their time on that tow in because that Capt is most likely senior to you.
On the 767 & A330 - yes if they want it (95% do). On the 717 - no. We fly a lot of 8+ hour flights that require at least 2 type rated pilots so one will be at a set of controls at all times. Mostly this is a typed FO (but sometimes it will be a second Captain) that we call an IRO or International Relief Officer. He'll relieve both the FO and Captain at the controls so no one is there more than 8 hours (company/contractural limit not FAR. FAR for 3 man crew is just 12 hours of flight time with nothing about time at the controls).
FO is always right, Captain is always left. No seat swaps.
True, but those of us flying IRO fumble a little bit less.