Flight Manuevers

[nugget81]

I was searching through some old threads but couldn't find what I was looking for....during the various stages of naval flight training (fixed wing), what maneuvers are SNA's taught? I'm curious how it relates to civilian flight training. Obviously there is a dramatic difference between the two as one pilot is being trained to defend and kill for the country while the other is being trained to get from point A to point B without hurting anyone. Again, I'm looking for specific training maneuvers. For example:

For a private pilot certificate, the student is taught cross-country planning & navigation, basic instrument manuevers (including unusual attitudes), ground reference manuevers (turns about a point, rectangular course, s-turns across a road, etc.), steep turns, short field takeoffs & landings, soft field takeoffs & landings, stalls, emergencies, and so forth....

Then you get have the commercial pilot certificate where pilots work on those same skills and manuevers but also add chandelles, lazy eights, eights on pylons, steep spirals, etc.

Instrument training consists of basic attitude instrument flying, approaches, instrument cross-countries, partial panel ops, etc. Is there anything unusual that the military trains for in instruments that you probably wouldn't find in the civilian world?

See what I'm getting at? Thanks in advance!

 

[ThetaChi]

In FAMS you will spend lots of time learning Spins, approach turn stalls, and a few others. A lot of emphasis is put on engine failures and emergency landings. These are done to equip the SNA with the know-how to save his own hide if something goes wrong on a solo. In PA's, you will perform aileron rolls, barrel rolls, wingovers, loops, immelmans, 1/2 cuban eights, and the split-S (I am sure that I am forgetting some). In Forms you will learn both basic formation flight and cruise formation flight. In RI's you obviously are introduced to instrument navigation and get in some cross country time.

 

[zippy]

Yeah, primary is where you learn the basics of flying... the Navy way- very similar to the stuff mentioned by you minus short field takeoffs and landings and the ground reference maneuvers- there are other maneuvers that teach you the same things. Add learning the break and shooting PARs/ASRs... and tacan approaches and the form stuff.
Learning to tactically employ your aircraft as a weapon system comes in later stages.

 

[NavyLonghorn]

Get the Airwarriors book. It talks all about all that crazy stuff, and its a fun read for a future SNA.

 

[Gatordev]

To simplify it and put it in civilian terms, Primary is where you learn the fundamentals and the basic items of a private, instrument, and commercial rating. Advanced is where you learn the more "advanced" portions of instrument and commercial ratings, to include a little bit of law (as in FARs and OPNAV 3710). By the time you're done w/ Advanced, you're still pretty much worthless to the Navy, with the exception of some initial tactics for the pointy nose guys. Basically, the main point of earning your wings is just to get you to a common starting point with the people in the fleet in your community. Now the fleet guys can start to teach you to be a valuable asset since you know the lingo (both literally and figuratively).