flag protocol

[scoolbubba]

Where does Eternal Father fall as far as a pseudo official navy song?

 

[ODSCandidate]

Anchors "Aweigh" and Marines Hymn

Thanks phrogpilot73 for correcting me. Attention to detail. You've obviously been around many a Marine. Many people don't know the difference between The Marines Hymn and Marine Corps Hymn, but I've made both corrections in my post.

Eternal Father is normally performed at memorial services, evening colors, military graduations, and for remembrance to those who have gone before us (i.e. Navy or Marine Corps Balls). There are numerous other events it is performed at, but I wont' try to name them all here.

As an official pseudo Navy song - I've seen and heard it performed and performed it as a substitute many a time. A lot of people like this song, but it is normally reserved for the above functions.

 

[phrogpilot73]

You've obviously been around many a Marine.

You could say that...

(hint - read my profile)

 

[exhelodrvr]

Where does Eternal Father fall as far as a pseudo official navy song?

That was always the last hymn sung at the USNA chapel services. I don't know if that is still the case, though.

 

[wink]

That was always the last hymn sung at the USNA chapel services. I don't know if that is still the case, though.

Was in the Chapel just a few weeks ago. With your thought in mind, I performed a little experiment. My hymnal fell open to Eternal Father. Obviously it is still sung very very frequently.

 

[cfam]

We sang eternal father after communion at USNA for every Catholic mass I was at, not sure if they sing it at the protestant service.

 

[RussBow6]

i always thought you had to take the Flag down when its raining... period.

i take mine down during the winter anyway but spring summer and fall its out with a spot light on it at night. rain; i've always taken it down though... not necessary?

 

[gotta_fly]

i always thought you had to take the Flag down when its raining... period.

i take mine down during the winter anyway but spring summer and fall its out with a spot light on it at night. rain; i've always taken it down though... not necessary?

I'm pretty sure you're allowed to leave it up only if it is an all-weather flag.

 

[gotta_fly]

Well, everyone. I hope I can share some information from the Marine Corps and Navy Bands Ceremonies Handbook to shed some light on proper protocol. Our first concern in this thread was :

1. "A Crowd removed their hats, some put their hands over their hearts. I am sure many of those folks did even know the difference between America the Beautiful and the National Anthem. But I also noticed that players and staff on the field faced the flag, stood at attention and removed their hats. I do not believe that is necessary. I think simply standing at attention and facing the flag is more then enough. What say you? Please provide references when possible."

ANSWER
According to Marine Corps Drills and Ceremonial Manual.....

The Marine Corps Drills and Ceremonial Manual wouldn't dictate how a civilian ballpark conducted ceremonies.

 

[voodooqueen]

Texas v. Johnson is a thought provoking read for a flag nazi. I think it was Justice Blackmun who wrote the best argument, and the decision of the court on respecting the flag/flag burning.

 

[HeloBubba]

FIRST, Anchors Aweigh IS the Navy's service song. I have performed with the Navy Band at thousands of military functions, engagements, ceremonies and events in CONUS and around the world as an ambassador for the United States Navy and it is the Navy's service song.

SECOND, IT IS our "official" service song. Someone was good enough to mention how it was written at the Naval Academy, which is correct! Here is the link to the story behind Anchors Aweigh at the United States Navy Band website.

http://www.navyband.navy.mil/anchorsaweigh.shtml

The Revised lyrics were revised by George D Lottman. The official copyright of the song is 1907. So feel free to stand "at attention" when your service song is played or performed. The only other people who normally stand at attention for the Marine's Hymn are Navy Chaplains because they serve with those units and the Marine Corps does not have their own Chaplains, or doctors for that matter.

I am former United States Marine Corps Band "and" United States Navy Band. If something I've said comes off as "bold" it's because this was my job and hopefully I know the Manual for Ceremonies, by the Bureau of Naval Personnel. I got paid to do this. OOO-RAH!

The Navy Historical Center disagrees with the Navy Band:

While there is a proposal to include protocol for performing "Anchors Aweigh" in the Navy Regulations and to designate it the official song of the U.S. Navy, it remains an unofficial service song.

Here is the link:

http://www.history.navy.mil/trivia/trivia01.htm

 

[wink]

The Navy Historical Center disagrees with the Navy Band:



Here is the link:

http://www.history.navy.mil/trivia/trivia01.htm

So there is no offical song? Are we the only service without one?

 

[red_ryder]

I always think it's a good facepalm whenever I hear polls of how many americans think it should be illegal to burn flags...

...when that's the proper way to retire them, too. Oh, ignorance...

 

[wink]

I always think it's a good facepalm whenever I hear polls of how many americans think it should be illegal to burn flags...

...when that's the proper way to retire them, too. Oh, ignorance...

When polling is done about flag burning it is in regard to the public undignified burning of a flag in protest. I have known since about the second grade (cub scout) how to properly retire a flag. In fact, I have burned, as in retired, a couple myself. Yet I am still repulsed by a flag burning protest and would prefer it not be done.

 

[gotta_fly]

When polling is done about flag burning it is in regard to the public undignified burning of a flag in protest. I have known since about the second grade (cub scout) how to properly retire a flag. In fact, I have burned, as in retired, a couple myself. Yet I am still repulsed by a flag burning protest and would prefer it not be done.

I think that's a pretty common paradox for those of us in uniform. Our job is to uphold the document that protects the right to do it, yet most of us can't stomach the idea of it actually happening. I, for one, do not know whether or not I'd be able to restrain myself if I witnessed a flag being burned in protest.