In your original post you only mentioned HSC-8. Hence my answer.
EDIT: Misunderstood original post AND got the names mixed up.
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First MH-60R squadron is established!
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In your original post you only mentioned HSC-8. Hence my answer.
EDIT: Misunderstood original post AND got the names mixed up.
I don't think you're gonna see many HS guys in the deploying HSM squadrons. The manning for HSC CVN won't change from the current HS manning so letting HS guys go HSM will be rare. Also, the HSM higher-ups have said they don't need any HS bubbas. Kind of unfortunate because there are a lot of guys who want to fly the R (and don't want to move to Norfolk)
I believe it, but a couple year's ago they were briefing the opposite. They were telling us that we would almost split (maybe 60/40 or something like that) going HSC and HSM. In fact, all the "hot shots" were whining about how bad they wanted to go HSC.
There is no doubt that HS guys have a couple needed skills for those squadrons, it's too bad they aren't "needed" (i.e. wanted).
Speaking of, did they ever get the GW with a full bag of gas (and no weapons) below 22k?
phrogpilot73
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Is that heavy?
MasterBates
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YES!
The 60B often had GW in the 21-22K range with a full bag and no weapons, and performance was marginal when it was really hot (i.e. Gulf)
60R has no more power than the 60B AFAIK
The 60B often had GW in the 21-22K range with a full bag and no weapons, and performance was marginal when it was really hot (i.e. Gulf)
60R has no more power than the 60B AFAIK
phrogpilot73
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For the Phrog full bag and no weapons = 22,400 (roughly), plenty of gravy considering our max gross was 24,300. Performance would be good at that weight too. When close to max gross is when things get dicey...
MasterBates
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Not sure how much HP the Phrog has, but not "losing" ~30% in the tail rotor probably helps too.
What exactly is the definition of "Strike?" I always heard the term "Strike" thrown around going through the various HSL syllabi, but then during an ARP class, I got into it w/ the SWTI teaching and asking how can we be strike when we never actually employ any of our gear except buoys. He came back w/ "we're no a strike platform, where are you getting that." I think my head exploded shortly after that just due to frustration from the whole evolution.
Originally, I understood Strike to reference our ability to attack various targets, be it w/ our Hellfires or w/ other assets in tow. So what's the HS party line?
EDIT: Not trying to have a pissing match, in case it sounds that way. Quite the contrary. I'm just curious on your response.
That doesn't seem that bad, relatively speaking. Did they ever increase the Tq limits? I heard that was in the plans to allow for more power. Makes me wonder if there's even a need for C-Power, especially since the Blackhawks don't have it.
What a pig of an aircraft. It wouldnt be too bad if they had maybe upgraded the engines like the army and other 60 users did. But then Im sure we would get into transmission issues. Sadly I think alot of that weight is in outdated systems that just got thrown in. ie pneumatic buoy launcher.
SurfTheLine
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We only have one Sierra so far, but more are on the way. It is going to be interesting working with an additional Helo squadron (HSM) on the carrier, I assume they will move into the vacant S-3 ready room.HS-8 became HSC-8 a few weeks ago.
Are you saying the buoy launcher is outdated because ASW is no longer a primary mission?