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fence in

es101js

es101js

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in forms at the moment and an instructor asked what "fence in" means. I know it is used for preforming the aerobatic checklist prior to doing dynamics for cruise forms, but im not sure what the story behind fence in is or what it stands for. Just wondering if anyone had any insight into this subject

thanks
 
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phrogpilot73

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"Fenced In" primarily refers to penetration checklists. No, not for chicks - but for penetrating hostile lands. Don't know why that's the phrase, but that's where it originates from in the training command...
 
Malice 1

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In forms class is was explained to me as follows:

When crossing into bad guy territory, You "fence in". It basically means you turn on the Master arm switch for your weapon systems. In the T34, you fence in when starting cruise form stuff, since cruise forms are sort of tactical-ish. You are supposed to turn on your autoignition switch when you "fence in" for two reasons:
1) you are doing semi aero maneuvers, so you need the added safety
2) you are pretending that your autoign switch is your master arm switch, to make the scenario more fun.

I had a harrier pilot teach my form class, and that was his take on it.
 
Harrier Dude

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I hadn't heard the term until the RAG. It's as if you're jumping over a fence into bad guy land. I originally thought it was an acronym (F.E.N.C.E.), but it the Harrier community it isn't. Our "fence check" is another acronym: PLACE
Pod, Lights, Armament, Countermeasures, Emitters.
 
HeyJoe

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Malice 1 said:
In forms class is was explained to me as follows:

When crossing into bad guy territory, You "fence in". It basically means you turn on the Master arm switch for your weapon systems. In the T34, you fence in when starting cruise form stuff, since cruise forms are sort of tactical-ish. You are supposed to turn on your autoignition switch when you "fence in" for two reasons:
1) you are doing semi aero maneuvers, so you need the added safety
2) you are pretending that your autoign switch is your master arm switch, to make the scenario more fun.

I had a harrier pilot teach my form class, and that was his take on it.
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We adopted the term prior to Desert Shield, when you left the tanker and were about to enter hostile territory (or simulated same), you "fenced in" and when you departed same, you "fenced out". The Fence Check(list) included all combat related items in proper switchology (master arm, ALE-39 on and checked, DECM, VTR, weapon selected, radar/TCS sweet, etc.). It also included all loose items stowed, straps cinched and mask tightened.
 
Gatordev

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heyjoe said:
We adopted the term prior to Desert Shield, when you left the tanker and were about to enter hostile territory (or simulated same), you "fenced in" and when you departed same, you "fenced out". The Fence Check(list) included all combat related items in proper switchology (master arm, ALE-39 on and checked, DECM, VTR, weapon selected, radar/TCS sweet, etc.). It also included all loose items stowed, straps cinched and mask tightened.
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Ours was similar: IFF, TACAN, ESM, VCR, and of course, arming the ALE-39. I can't remember if actually going to Master Arm-ON was part of it because a) you could run into problems w/ the laser being "used" and b) who are we kidding...
 
Gatordev

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MasterBates said:
Yes. JUST DON'T DOWNLINK IT OVER HAWK!
(Yes, someone on my det did that. It wasn't me)
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I think everyone's "not" done that.

@Steve:

Ironically, on my second cruise, the VCR could only record. None of the buttons actually did anything (including eject, you had to put a pen in there to get it out). So when it was time to get evidence, the AW just popped the tape in. When it was all over, he jammed his pen in there and popped the tape out. But who needs such dated porn techniques in the age of iPods,laptops, and palmtop navigation devices....
 
ChuckMK23

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"Fence In" is a standard Air Force term - and it roughly translates to some combination of "time to do the penetration checklist" and "feet dry" - but in the air force it's used almost on every combat training flight as well as in UPT to instill "combat culture". Remember how super standardized the AF is...

They also consider "Fence In" when hitting the MOA or entering a VR or IR...
 
Single Seat

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Fence in, means you're ready for combat. We do it on every tactical hop. As has been said, weapons properly selected and programmed, expendables armed, pods on and armed, radar set up, radar reciever and jammers on, and this is also your chance to announce any alibis (things wrong with the jet) such as a bent radar, degraded systems, etc.

Conversely, once everything is complete, and you're on your way home, you fence out. Everything in reverse and safe up, shut down systems, etc.
 
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